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RedSN
11-21-2016, 09:57 PM
Don't forget to torque your lug nuts properly.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkCI_fhpRqw

Was funny, they were talking about this on the radio this evening, and the radio hosts had no idea how to check for "proper torque". They were talking about how the tire "monitors" should check for that :facepalm:

Old Fart
11-21-2016, 10:08 PM
Cool vid!

ZR
11-21-2016, 10:11 PM
When torquing your wheels, first nut or even two should be taken well beyond snug but not to full torque. What happens if you don't, odd time you'll actually jam the wheel / rotor (if it's slip on style) a hair sideways giving you a false full torque reading. A short distance down the road, wheel centers and your left with loose wheel nuts.

OldSchool
11-21-2016, 10:52 PM
Many dealers are covering their azzez now and putting that sticker on 100km come back for a retorq. 50% of the customers dont seems to bother coming back

Old Fart
11-21-2016, 11:33 PM
^^^and many just over-torque the nuts so they will never come off!!

Ponyryd
11-21-2016, 11:39 PM
^By the looks of it that wheel was over-torqued, a loose wheel would be shaking long before coming off, that one was dead steady, then suddenly shook violently-right as you see lugs go flying. I'd bet the studs were stretched and snapped, seen it before.

cf105arrow
11-21-2016, 11:57 PM
The driver must have known something wasn't right. They had their hazard lights on before the wheel let go. Bolts came loose followed by front end vibration then...

92redragtop
11-21-2016, 11:58 PM
They were driving with their hazard lights on pre-failure - wonder why?


Oops! too late ^^^^

RedSN
11-21-2016, 11:59 PM
Surprising they knew enough to put the hazards on, but not enough to pull the hell off the road.

Edit: treed by ragtop
Edit edit: and arrow

Screw
11-22-2016, 07:21 AM
Noob question...torque should be ...100lbs ?

Ponyryd
11-22-2016, 08:02 AM
Depends on the car, but usually yea.

ZR
11-22-2016, 08:02 AM
^By the looks of it that wheel was over-torqued, a loose wheel would be shaking long before coming off, that one was dead steady, then suddenly shook violently-right as you see lugs go flying. I'd bet the studs were stretched and snapped, seen it before.



We continue to get a good number in that have been tightened to the max with an impact.

Screw
11-22-2016, 08:12 AM
I better check mine properly no impact gun just 24" pythons lol ..k maybe 12-24"

Black Sheep
11-22-2016, 08:13 AM
Noob question...torque should be ...100lbs ?

depends on what is being tightened. refer to your owners manual. make sure your torque wrench is reading lb-ft and not lb-in. made that mistake before and kept waiting for the click. the only click i heard was the bolt snapping. LOL.
now i only use n-m. much harder to screw up.

StAnger
11-22-2016, 08:18 AM
At least there was an ambulance close by should things have gone worse.

ZR
11-22-2016, 08:20 AM
My suggestion, 90-95lb max, recheck after a few days with wheels cold.

baddbullitt
11-22-2016, 08:25 AM
On a good note. When the wheel did come off, the driver kept it cool and didn't kiss the wall or the ditch!!

Uncle Buck
11-22-2016, 09:13 AM
When torquing your wheels, first nut or even two should be taken well beyond snug but not to full torque. What happens if you don't, odd time you'll actually jam the wheel / rotor (if it's slip on style) a hair sideways giving you a false full torque reading. A short distance down the road, wheel centers and your left with loose wheel nuts.

This happened to me this year on the van. Was shocked since it was a first and I've torqued a few wheels in my day.

ZR
11-22-2016, 09:23 AM
I remember that, could happen to anyone.

Scrape
11-22-2016, 10:30 AM
Wow! Crazy stuff. Dash cams are amazing.

5.4MarkVIII
11-22-2016, 01:13 PM
I put winter rims on my father in laws SUV for him. The nuts on the wheels were so tight I had the peek the compressor out at 130psI to get the impact to crack them loose. It's was crazy. Told him to give the chev dealer shit cuz they had cracked the chrome casing on all the nuts. Cars only 2 years old.

Laffs
11-22-2016, 01:55 PM
Noob question...torque should be ...100lbs ?

Check manual/oem recommendation. Fun fact, Porsche centre lug torque spec on 997 GT3 is 444ft/lbs.

Rich-C
11-22-2016, 02:11 PM
I go to 90 ft.lbs for my non posrche vehicles. 100 ft.lbs always gives me trouble come following tire change.

ZR
11-22-2016, 02:12 PM
Also some studs start to feel hinky / spongy over 90 ish.

OldSchool
11-22-2016, 02:13 PM
worst for the "bitch to get off" In my books, the Volkswagen ones.

RedSN
11-22-2016, 02:37 PM
Check manual/oem recommendation. Fun fact, Porsche centre lug torque spec on 997 GT3 is 444ft/lbs.
how exactly does one apply 444 ft/lbs of torque?

Laffs
11-22-2016, 02:59 PM
how exactly does one apply 444 ft/lbs of torque?

With an expensive and large torque wrench

http://rennlist.com/forums/attachments/997-gt2-gt3-forum/399338d1258287927-center-lock-wheel-wrench-gt3-cltorque-wrench.jpg

Ghost Rider
11-22-2016, 03:09 PM
^^^why is the arrow pointing to 500 Nautical Miles?

NickD
11-22-2016, 03:11 PM
Newton meters.....

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RedSN
11-22-2016, 03:14 PM
Nm = Newton meter
NM = nautical mile
nm = nanometer

Laffs
11-22-2016, 04:37 PM
^^^why is the arrow pointing to 500 Nautical Miles?

Need to rotate it pretty far to hit the torque spec.

Armen
11-22-2016, 05:39 PM
Nm = Newton meter
NM = nautical mile
nm = nanometer

(^^^ engineer post)

jibbijib
11-22-2016, 07:36 PM
Chordless impact gun with 800 ft lbs torque. Crank the nuts on and rattle for a good 30 seconds each lug.

;)

bluetoy
11-22-2016, 09:02 PM
I go to 90 ft.lbs for my non posrche vehicles. 100 ft.lbs always gives me trouble come following tire change.


That won't cut it on an f150. The spec is 150ft/lbs. Must be a little Porsche in f150's

Scrape
11-22-2016, 09:10 PM
VW/Audi torque specs are 85ft/lbs when I last checked.

Redfire427
11-22-2016, 09:15 PM
For what it's worth, 500 Nm is 368 Lb/ft.

Mellow Yellow
11-22-2016, 09:24 PM
In August a guy on Kennedy Rd in Brampton lost a wheel from his Toyota van, it rolled 300 feet and found the front of my 1990 Nissan 300 ZX.

Can you imagine if someone was walking along and got hit by this run away wheel!

ZR
11-22-2016, 09:40 PM
Some years back, younger sister was hit by wheels off the rear of a transport trk. The full size 70's Pontiac Parisienne she was driving, front end and roof unrecognizable it was so badly mangled plus car shoved some distance off the road.

98 Snake
11-22-2016, 10:33 PM
I've come across so many loose wheels now that when I road test and hear the noise I already know what it is. There's no mistaking something is wrong and people just keep driving .
Most cars use 12mm/1/2 nuts I tighten to 100 ft lbs
Trucks 14mm / 9/16 140 ft lbs

98 Snake
11-22-2016, 10:34 PM
The stock cobra wheels from my car show evidence of being driven with the wheels loose

Intmdtr
11-23-2016, 11:15 AM
I like to torque my wheel nuts to about 105lbs to seat the wheels then back each one off and retorque to 90ft/lbs as per Manu/spec

stangstevers
11-24-2016, 06:35 AM
So.... you guys don't torque your lug nuts often? :D

RedSN
05-25-2023, 01:34 PM
I remember that, could happen to anyone.

Well, it happened: a few weeks ago, took the stang out to wing night for her maiden voyage of the year. On the way home, heard something wasn’t quite right in the front end. Sounded like a loose wheel. I thought maybe after many track days the front hubs had finally pooched. Put the car away on the lift and didn’t get around to checking it until today. Sure enough, it was the front left wheel coming off. Simple fix, but could have been WAY WORSE! Fortunately, doesn’t look like it was loose enough to damage the wheel or the studs.

Check your lug nuts!

CON VERT
05-25-2023, 05:48 PM
2019-2021 Ford Wheel Lug Nut Torque Specs






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Year
Ford Model
Submodel / Trim
Nut Torque

</thead>



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</thead><tbody class="row-hover" style="box-sizing: inherit;">
2021
EcoSport
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2021
Edge
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2021
Escape
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2021
Expedition
ALL
150 lbf·ft


2021
Explorer
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2021
F-150
ALL
150 lbf·ft


2021
F-250 Super Duty
ALL
165 lbf·ft


2021
F-350 Super Duty
ALL
165 lbf·ft


2021
GT
ALL
88 lbf·ft


2021
Mustang
ALL
150 lbf·ft


2021
Mustang Mach-E
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2021
Police Interceptor Utility
4 Dr Sport Utility
100 lbf·ft


2021
Police Responder Hybrid
4 Dr Sedan
150 lbf·ft


2021
Ranger
ALL
120 lbf·ft


2021
SSV Plug-In Hybrid
ALL
150 lbf·ft


2021
Transit Connect
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2021
Transit-150
ALL
148 lbf·ft


2021
Transit-250
ALL
148 lbf·ft


2021
Transit-350
ALL
148 lbf·ft


2021
Transit-350 HD
ALL
148 lbf·ft


2020
EcoSport
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2020
Edge
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2020
Escape
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2020
Expedition
ALL
150 lbf·ft


2020
Explorer
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2020
F-150
ALL
150 lbf·ft


2020
F-250 Super Duty
ALL
165 lbf·ft


2020
F-350 Super Duty
ALL
165 lbf·ft


2020
Fusion
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2020
GT
ALL
88 lbf·ft


2020
Mustang
ALL
150 lbf·ft


2020
Police Interceptor Utility
4 Dr Sedan
110 lbf·ft


2020
Police Responder Hybrid
4 Dr Sport Utility
100 lbf·ft


2020
Ranger
ALL
120 lbf·ft


2020
SSV Plug-In Hybrid
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2020
Transit Connect
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2020
Transit-150
ALL
148 lbf·ft


2020
Transit-250
ALL
148 lbf·ft


2020
Transit-350
ALL
148 lbf·ft


2020
Transit-350 HD
ALL
148 lbf·ft


2019
EcoSport
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2019
Edge
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2019
Escape
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2019
Expedition
ALL
150 lbf·ft


2019
Explorer
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2019
F-150
ALL
150 lbf·ft


2019
F-250 Super Duty
ALL
165 lbf·ft


2019
F-350 Super Duty
ALL
165 lbf·ft


2019
Fiesta
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2019
Flex
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2019
Fusion
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2019
GT
ALL
88 lbf·ft


2019
Mustang
ALL
150 lbf·ft


2019
Police Interceptor Sedan
4 Dr Sedan
110 lbf·ft


2019
Police Interceptor Utility
4 Dr Sport Utility
110 lbf·ft


2019
Police Responder Hybrid
4 Dr Sedan
110 lbf·ft


2019
Ranger
ALL
120 lbf·ft


2019
SSV Plug-In Hybrid
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2019
Taurus
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2019
Transit Connect
ALL
100 lbf·ft


2019
Transit-150
ALL
148 lbf·ft


2019
Transit-250
ALL
148 lbf·ft


2019
Transit-350
ALL
148 lbf·ft


2019
Transit-350 HD
ALL
148 lbf·ft

</tbody>





2019-2021 Ford Wheel Lug Nut Torque Specs. Always refer to your Ford Owner's Manual for exact lug nut torque range.

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Black Sheep
05-25-2023, 06:12 PM
I really hate it when my nuts get loose….then I sit on them or hit them with my knees while I’m walking…...it sucks getting old…

ZR
05-25-2023, 08:29 PM
^ LOL

hammerhead
05-26-2023, 10:59 AM
Seen four wheel offs in the last two weeks on highway 10 - the one this morning (Civic) also damaged his left front fender. All the recent wheel offs I've seen where left front on front wheel drive. The left side is most likely to come off because the wheel spins counter clockwise in forward as does the wheel nut. To make 100 pounds by hand is easy to trust a torque wrench Meh! Take the car for a very short spin around the block and recheck them. Especially left front on front wheel drive and the left rear on rear wheel drive. In the old days Mopars had left hand thread on the left side, maybe that needs to happen again.