Essentially I want to know if anyone has done this. A friend of mine suggested I bore my 4.6 out to a 5.0 and get forged internals. I currently have a stock 2003 GT with bolt V2 supercharger with intercooler and 3.73 gears.
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Essentially I want to know if anyone has done this. A friend of mine suggested I bore my 4.6 out to a 5.0 and get forged internals. I currently have a stock 2003 GT with bolt V2 supercharger with intercooler and 3.73 gears.
Whats your end game for power / use?
Do you want 600hp to hit a time target of some kind or just as a personal benchmark?
To go fully forged internals and do all the machining for a big bore conversion to gain that extra displacement you're talking about several thousand dollars. Plus just doing the big bore alone won't net you 600, you'll have to swap pulleys to a much smaller diameter than current to up the boost, retune, etc. Plus at that point may as well just take that stock T45/3650 and toss it in the dumpster.
There are several sponsor shops in GTA that can build you a motor to handle this boost level and power. But you're probably going to spend 2x what you did to do the basic supercharged kit to get there. Go down the rabbit hole if you want but my advice is a mid 400hp 2V is about as much street fun as a 2v gets. Above that the power to dollar spent ration just doesn't add up and you've spent Cobra/Shelby money to get there.
Coyote swap may be cheaper...
That's what I mean... depends on long term goals... hard to beat a twin turbo coyote lol
Terminator swap would be a much better choice, easy swap and a very capable engine, not to mention looks way cooler than a 2V. And fwiw, I don’t think you can bore a 4.6 to a 5.0 safely, you’d need to get an aftermarket clock with thicker cylinders.
Agreed, be happy as is or re-power for big squeeze.
Realistically, what you got is big jam, yes in spite of what the internet says.
Yes I’m aware of that. But my point is when you bore out and engine, you’re taking material from the cylinder walls, making them thinner, in order to make the cylinder bigger-the problem is, factory blocks don’t have enough material to spare to safely go from a 4.6 to a 5.0, the walls will be too thin after machining-especially for a boosted/nitrous engine.
Basically, if you want a 5.0, you’ll need an aftermarket block since they have thicker walls to stand up to more abuse and overboring.
To be honest it sounds like you don’t really know what you want or why, but you’re listening to someone else who isn’t the one spending the cash, so it’s very easy for him to say do this or that. Basically if he knows about 4.6 engines he would have told you you’ll need an aftermarket block to safely get a to a 5.0, and really, even when you get to a 5.0, nobody will know for sure that you have a 5.0 except the machinist and engine builder. If you just want forged internals to add boost you’d be better off leaving it a 4.6, and buying forged parts, or you could do as I suggested and buy a terminator 4.6 dohc engine, which is forged from the factory. At least if you get a termi engine it will look way better than your current one when you pop the hood.
Richard, your correct about boring the cylinders. The popular way to increase displacement is stroking the engine. As most of the time your purchasing a forged crank.
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That’s true Nick, but stroking is big money. He’s close to the limit of the stocker with his current power level, I’d guess he’s running right around 10psi, next step without breaking the bank is to do forged internals and turn the boost up. Adding cubes is cool but it costs a ton, and it’s pointless for a toy of this nature imo.
Start here.
https://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/M-6009-B53
Then add money until you cannot retire before you are 90.
Tune and correct supporting mods. Too many try to make big h/p on a shoestring, seldom if ever works out long term.
https://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-...oss-block.html
I remember entertaining the thought. I'm not sure if this is a thicker block that was bored to 5.0L
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^Yes, it’s a Boss block, much stronger.
But just so you guys all know, all things being equal a 5.0 compared to a 4.6 won’t net you any noticeable HP gains. Boss blocks are used because of their strength, to be used with high boost mostly.
It’s not that hard, best off to buy a complete salvage car and use what you need.
Yea, could always put out a want ad on Kijiji, never know man, I had one slip through my hands last year. The deal was too good to be true, my buddy told me about it and I kept asking him to call her, he said it was ours for sure, lady said a price and he agreed, he knew her son or brother or some crap, we just had to wait a few weeks, in the meantime she called a salvage yard and they gave her more.
That sucks big time [emoji35]. She coulda notified what the salvage yard wanted. Oh well !
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If you are looking to swap in a 03/04 Cobra or Coyote engine you can check the Parts Farm Facebook page but it is U.S money.