Looking at F150's but open to other brands. New truck will be a long term keeper as mileage will pile up quickly.
What the best plan? Kinda looking at lease trade-ins right now.
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Looking at F150's but open to other brands. New truck will be a long term keeper as mileage will pile up quickly.
What the best plan? Kinda looking at lease trade-ins right now.
Year end models that are demos are the best for new buys.
with a plan if you have it then big discounts.. you can get a loaded f150 for like 40k tax in at the most.
A new Ram 1500 Classic, 25% off MSRP.
You know how I've done it with last three trucks, spend the time to find the insane deal on a 1-2 yr old low miler (18 months old with 11k on the clock). Had current ride 3yrs this coming August, still worth what I paid for it. If your looking for a crew with 6' or longer box, cheapest place you'll find em is a city or close to city dealer where they are a hard sell.
As for what to buy, can only tell you I've never been as satisfied / pleased with any truck as my current Ram. Does it do everything perfect,nope but it is one hell of an overachiever. Previous GM I had, one of the worst POS I've owned / always had GM trucks up till then.
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Ed, your killing me
Didn't click that far on it, sorry! I know our sales rep who does the web stuff usually works on the updates on Fridays.
Also some new 2019s available still:
https://www.parkwayford.ca/vehicles/...,2019&md=F-150
I just picked up a 2019 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 Limited with just over 4,000kms window sticker almost $43,000.00 got it for just over $29,000.00 looks and smells new still!!https://scontent.fyyz1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...21&oe=5EBF7F5A
^^^From a dealer?
all the left over 2019 f150's around here are all eco boost (which I do not want)
Demo truck or brand new with discounts is my go to. If you search for 1-2 year old smoking deal eventually one will pop up but you have to pounce on it ASAP it seems. FCA will always hurl incentives at you this time of the year. My current Ram CCSB 4x4 pretty much fully jammed was a 64k sticker I got for 42k OTD and 0% financing for 72. Everything used comparable at the time for 1-2 year old was basically within 6-8k of that and meant losing at least a year of warranty plus they all seemed to be odd option combos. 2+ year old stuff seems to all be overpriced IMO for what you get compared to spending the dollars on new.
If you're going to pile the miles on fuel economy has to be a factor no? In our fleet the 3.6L paired with 8 speed Rams are KILLING IT right now on the best mixed mileage vs TCO. Spec'd with a 3.92 gear they can still tow 7300lbs in a crew cab 4x4 config which is super respectable. Ford has the 2.7L Eco as well but we haven't had as great luck with Ecoboost stuff in our application. I know Armen was super pleased with his last 2.7 truck.
call me old school but I like V8's
You're old school.
But I don't fully blame you. I always order my trucks with the 8 cyl option, resale wise they always do a little better vs the 6er's and as stated I put sub 10k kms on my trucks a year so econ is low priority. I will say modern stuff with the multigear transmissions do pretty damn well highway. Our owners new 6.2 Sierra Denali with a 10spd is better highway than my 5.7 and 8spd Ram.
We bought an 08 Tundra with 183,000 km on it 7 years ago and today it's still running strong, the box doesn't look all that great but the motor and drivetrain all still running strong. All we've had to do is the brakes, oil changes and tires since we bought the truck and when we buy a newer truck we're going back to a Toyota Tundra.
Just my 2 cents.
I bought my ‘12 ram slt in 2015.. 11k on the clock for $25k tax in. Was a pretty insane deal at the time.. guess no one wanted a red truck.
I say buy used.. I’ll never buy a new vehicle.
Currently looking in the 3 ish year old range but finding prices aren’t reflecting the age. Still expensive.
I’ve never had a new vehicle either, never really considered it till now.
I found when shopping for mine that trim packages/extras cost so much more on a truck vs. a car. Is it just me?
Not so much more cost new but more value retention. Used higher end trucks hold value like crazy. Difference between a used Laramie and a used SLT is pretty wild.
Problem is I have a 2011 f150 platinum. Would need a Ram Laramie at least
Keep in mind when looking, have dealer shoot you the vin number and decode online yourself. That way you'll know exactly what your going to look at it. Even on a Laramie, can be ordered minus a whole bunch of the higher end features so be wary of dealers advertising fully fully loaded when in fact they can be missing 10K plus plus plus of options. Very little comes in a Ltd that can't be found in a jammed Laramie. Other thing to watch, don't get stuck with a big gear in the rear end if you really don't need it. Mine pulls like a mofo with just 3:21 out back. For some odd reason, bulk of the Rams out there are ordered without Ltd slip in the rear, put it in mine. It otherwise had every option except moon roof (major bonus as I really didn't want), front parking sensors, CD player in the console and factory running boards. Be sure to check out the available factory box / cargo lamps, super nice to have, especially with a tonneau cover. If important to you, power pedals are not all that common either.
Ram mirrors, make sure you can deal with the size n how far the tow mirrors hang out. On my body style, not powered or power folding, perfect for me mine came with full power / defrost n power folding standard style mirrors, I use em on a reg basis in parking lots. Headlights, difference between standard lights and premium headlights is absolutely night n day on a dark road, must have option IMHO.
In that case I doubt you’ll be happy with a Ram Classic, they’re not coming with too many options now as they phase them out, I haven’t seen one with leather in the last year. I agree with Laffs that buying new is very often worth it, my last Grand Cherokee was $54k sticker and we paid $42k for it, there are good deals to be had but you need to actually see what’s out there. Right now you can probably find 19s around that are well-priced, but beware of buying a demo-even if the dealer listed it as a demo (which they often do to makes sales quotas) and it only has 2-400km on it, the warranty starts when it’s first registered.
Personally I would go for a Toyota if you can swing it, but be prepared to pay way more than a comparable domestic.
I’ve never been excited about looking at a Toyota interior
They do look like they are built like a brick shit house tho.
+1 to a Ram
Ram Sport would have everything you need as well... Mine and Rick's are almost identical option wise cept I had the diff in mine... I can't remember if that came with the Sport or if that was an option but like Rick said get the VIN and you can decode right on the website right down to the silly things like if the vehicle has "headlights" or not LOL, not even joking, it's pretty in-depth which is cool
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I picked up my new Ram in November and I got 39% off the MSRP. I bought it at Peel Chrysler. You cannot beat their prices.
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I shopped last year for used vs new pickup. Couldn’t find a low k truck , ie would find a 2 year old with 125,000 Kim’s on it and they still want 25 k plus. Drove the Ram and was about to buy it until it was 9% borrowing, went over to GM and drove a 1500 and it was zero %. Truck was 65k on paper - out the door was 55 ish. Love the truck but she’s thirsty in the city , great on the highway. No regrets !
I have always bought used ....like 10 y/o used.
Current truck is the first new vehicle I have ever owned. Price of used trucks is ridiculous now. Lots of them being shipped south.
What are the details Dave? Year, trim level and box length etc. How do you like the “dial a gear”?
For me, rotary shifter took a lil getting accustomed to, second nature now.
Rams 8 speed trans, always in the right gear no matter what your doing.
A friend of mine had a 12 f150 with a 5L. Didn’t want a eco boost until he figured out the fuel savings. Bought an eco boost and loves it. He was also not one to buy new but with rebates and 0% finance couldn’t go wrong. When he factored in the fuel savings it didn’t cost him much more at all to be driving a brand new truck over his higher kms 5L. It tows his mustang really well also.
Here's my Truck:
Vehicle Description: 2015 RAM 1500 SPORT 4X4
I have almost 90k kms on it now with 25k of that being towing!
STANDARD EQUIPMENT:
Luxury Group
Sport Group
Monotone Paint
180 Amp Alternator
730 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
Electronic Stability Control
Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
Highline Door Trim Panel
2nd Row In Floor Storage Bins
Front Height Adjust Shoulder Belts
Supplemental Side Air Bags
Advanced Multistage Front Air Bags
Supplemental Frt Seat Side Air Bags
Carpet Floor Covering
Front & Rear Floor Mats
Driver/Passenger Assist Handles
Rear Underseat Compartment Storage
Overhead Console w/Garage Dr Opener
Elec Shift On Demand Transfer Case
215MM Front Axle
3.21 Rear Axle Ratio
235MM REAR AXLE
Conventional Differential Frt Axle
Tinted Glass Windows
Tinted Windshield Glass
Rear Power Sliding Window
Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors
Passenger Side Sun Visor w/Mirror
RR View Auto Dim Mirror w/Microphone
Power Heated Mirrors, Fold-Away
Remote Keyless Entry with All-Secure
Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System
Dash Liner Insulation
Floor Tunnel Insulation
Electroluminescent Instr Cluster
200 KPH Primary Speedometer
Temperature & Compass Gauge
Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers
Dual Note Electric Horns
12V Auxiliary Power Outlet
Power Accessory Delay
Instrument Panel Premium Bezel
Power Locks
Pwr Front Windows, 1-Touch,Up & Down
Sport Taillamps
Front Passenger Seat Belt Alert
Vehicle Information Center
Glove Box Lamp
LED Interior Lighting
Underhood Lamp
Traveler/Mini Trip Computer
Rear Dome w/On/Off Switch Lamp
Automatic Headlamps
Bi-Function Halogen Projector H/Lamp
Fog Lamps
Cargo and CHMSL Lamp
Body Color Front Fascia
Body Color Rear Bumper w/Step Pads
Front License Plate Bracket
Front Wheel Spats
Grille-Body Color
Ram's Head Badge
Rear Wheel Well Liners
Body Color Door Handles
B-Pillar Black out
Rear Wheel Spats
Ram 1500 Badge
4X4 Badge
Front Bumper Sight Shields
Dual Rear Exhaust w/Bright Tips
Engine Block Heater
Speed Control
Bright White Clear Coat
Remote USB Port - Charge Only
Power Rack and Pinion Steering
Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
Front Heavy Duty Shock Absorbers
Rear Heavy Duty Shock Absorbers
Front Stabilizer Bar
Rear Stabilizer Bar
Tilt Steering Column
Tire Carrier Winch
Full Size Temporary Use Spare Tire
P275/60R20 OWL All Season Tires
20X9.0 Polished Alum Wheels
17" Steel Spare Wheel
Non Adjustable Pedals
Pickup Box
R1234YF A/C Refrigerant
7 Pin Wiring Harness
Trailer Tow w/4-Pin Connector Wiring
Universal Garage Door Opener
Locking Tailgate
Body Color Fuel Filler Door
Seat Parts Module
Instrument Panel Parts Module
Door Parts Module
Front End Parts Module
Tire & Wheel Parts Module
Build To Canada Mkt. Specifications
GVW Rating - 6900#
Canada Dealer Retail
Zone 21-Canada-Ontario
Crew Cab
DS/6322 Vehicle Family
Four Wheel Drive (4WD)/(4X4)
2015 Vehicle Specifications
Price Class S - Sport
6 FT. Cargo Box
1500 Series
Vehicle Order Tracking
Canada Specifications Label
Ontario Province Code
Canada Country Code
OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT:
Leather Trimmed Bucket Seats
Black
Convenience Group
Remote Start & Security Alarm Group
Premium Sound Group
Bucket Seats
High Back Seats
Ventilated Front Seats
Supp. Side Curtain Frt/Rr Air Bags
Heated Front Seats
Rear 60/40 Split Folding Seat
Full Length Floor Console
Folding Flat Load Floor Storage
Rotary Shifter-Bright
All Automatic Transmissions
8-Spd Auto 8HP70 Trans (Buy-US)
Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle
5.7L V8 HEMI MDS VVT Engine
Rear Window Defroster
Auto Dim Exterior Mirror
All Vehicles W/Power Mirrors
Power Sunroof
Remote Proximity Keyless Entry
Keyless Go
Air Cond ATC w/Dual Zone Control
Rain Sensitive Windshield Wipers
115V Auxiliary Power Outlet
GPS Navigation
GPS Antenna Input
Power Lumbar Adjust
Power 10-Way Drvr & 6-Way Pass Seats
Ash Tray Lamp
Ext. Mirrors w/Supplemental Signals
Exterior Mirrors Courtesy Lamps
Body Color Exterior Mirrors
Power-Folding Mirrors
Auto High Beam Headlamp Control
Daytime Running Headlamps, Dedicated
Security Alarm
Active Grille Shutters
Sport Performance Hood
Wheel to Wheel Side Steps
Hemi Badge
50 State Emissions
32 Gallon Fuel Tank
Heavy Duty Transmission Oil Cooler
Exterior Mirrors w/Heating Element
Electronically Controlled Throttle
Heated Steering Wheel
Heavy Duty Engine Cooling
Bright White Clear Coat
All Radio Equipped Vehicles
Uconnect 3C NAV with 8.4" Display
9 Alpine Speakers w/Subwoofer
Fixed Long Mast Antenna
Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Ctrls
8.4" Touchscreen Display
Harman Radio Manufacturer
Single Disc Remote CD Player
SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Media Hub (2 USB, Aux)
Audio Jack Input for Mobile Devices
Remote USB Port
Remote SD Card Slot
All VP4 Radios
Goodyear Brand Tires
All Aluminum Wheels
Center Hub
ParkView Rear Back-up Camera
Remote Start System
Tip Start
Class IV Receiver Hitch
Tire Pressure Monitoring Display
Locking Lug Nuts
English/USA Language
Spray in Bedliner
Integrated Voice Command w/Bluetooth
Humidity Sensor
Electronic Shift
Raised Ride Height
1-Yr. SiriusXM Radio Service
For More Info, Call 800-643-2112
4.5 Additional Gallons of Gas
Spring - Left Rear
Spring - Left Front
Spring - Right Rear
Spring - Right Front
Customer Preferred Package 2TL
Customer Preferred Package 26L
Federal A/C Excise Tax
Ontario Tire Surcharge
Special Scheduling Condition II
4X4 Tracking
Warren Truck Assembly Plant
Canada Region Group
NAFTA Region
Pretty much the perfect option list. Do you want to sell it? Lol
Did you buy it new?
I have had my 2019 RAM 1500 Bighorn for just about a year now. Currently have just over 8,000 km on her (Short commute)
I have had two issues during that time that where taken care of by dealers under warranty. First the headlight switch crapped out at 400k. Lights stayed in the on position all the time when the Truck was on. They replaced the switch with a new one. Took a month to get the part. Then last summer my dash reported an issue with the 4x4 system. Truck was stuck in 2WD. I could not switch it to any other mode. There was no issue driving it and luckily it was summer. Some module needed to be replaced. It took 2 month to get the part. Dealer kept saying soon but never had a definitive date. I ended up contacting RAM Canada via email and low and behold the part showed up a couple days later.
Even with these issues I love the Truck. It drives great and the 5.7 Hemi has the right amount of power. No V6 Truck for me. I have a 10km commute to work each way, so I don't care about gas usage.
My Truck had a sticker price of $62,000 and I paid $47,000.
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I have a 2019 Super Crew Lariat with the 2.7L EB.
It’s my third 2.7. I absolutely love this motor. I wouldn’t get another 5.0L. My rental (truck written off) was a 5.0 and I missed my 2.7.
I’m surprised the amount of Ram owners on here
I have 3 Rams in the company currently.
a 2014 1500 5.7 8spd Laramie with 345k that has been a total pleasure to own. 14l/100km overall average. Love this truck just not big enough to tow our larger trailers.
Also have a 2017 2500 Laramie Power Wagon with the 6.4L hemi and a 6spd. Great truck, just a wee bit thirsty. Every time I'd start it some Arab would get an erection. Not real practical for the 80k I do a year, but it was a leftover special order and the price was right at ~$52k new. Sticker list was 68k.
Now I'm in a 2019 2500 Limited with the 6.7 diesel. I've had it a month and have 7k on it. I've only had to fill it 9x so far. Can't wait to hook up the big trailer and give her a workout. Got this one for 17k off list.
I haven’t but it tows up to 7600lbs.
Trying I can get 10.5L/100. Just driving mixed is about 12.
The power is amazing. 400tq. It’s like a magic carpet ride.
I love this motor. It definitely does not lack in performance. It just lacks the V8 sound, which is important to some. Not to me tho. Drop the hammer and it goes.