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Thread: Opinions wanted on a car sale gone bad

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    Opinions wanted on a car sale gone bad

    Ok here's the scoop
    A guy I know had a mid 90's 6 banger Camaro for sale was asking $2500 the car did have brand new snow tires and looked ok for a beater.
    He took the car to a mechanic that told him it would need at least $500 worth of exhaust work on a quick glance.
    He was not being paid for a safety so no he didn't get right into it. Seller is a school teacher that knows nothing about cars at all.
    Seller had someone interested so he dropped the price to $2000 as is.
    They negotiated and made a deal on $1800 as is.
    Buyer transferred the car into his name and deal is complete.

    Nope
    6 weeks later seller gets a letter in the mail from a paralegal stating he sold this guy a car that needed more work than anyone reasonably would do to safety a car.
    Suing for get this
    $1800 for the car
    $300 for the mechanics bill to go over the car and deem it not worth fixing
    $234 The taxes paid to put the car in his name
    $500 for the frustration of the whole ordeal

    So $2834 total

    Never once did he contact seller to complain just straight to legal action.

    So they had the first meeting with a judge
    The judge asked them both to throw out an offer and that because both parties could not provide the bill of sale paperwork for car and all they had was some email traffic that it would likely settle at 15% of the suit.

    So seller offers $425 and go away
    Buyer says nope I want $2000 min or it goes to court

    So off they go to court.

    It's not just buyer beware anymore
    Seller better be careful too.

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    No paperwork = trouble. I always write 2 bills of sale and get signatures on both of them.

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    Ya judge said if bill of sale stated unfit then he would be clear.
    If it stated as is that one could assume it needs little work.
    The email had “as is”
    But when mto transfers it over they don’t call it “as is” they call it unfit if it hasn’t passed a safety.

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    I get the lesson......We need to say unfit for the ROAD.

    But who is it to say the car or any car for that matter is not worth fixing / repairing / restoring. Maybe to that one mechanic it is of his opinion but to another it may be well worth fixing. I think this Judge is as green as the seller & buyer both.

    JMO

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    I'm going to say this one skate boards to work. So maybe NO

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    Doesn't any used car sale require a UVIP?

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    I'm willing to bet that we have all seen a basket case car that most would walk away from and deem it not worth fixing.
    Yet some car guy may be in love with it and just have to have it. Spend way over what it's "worth"
    How was the seller to know what the intention of the buyer really is.
    Maybe if he was to do the work himself it would be worth doing.
    Maybe he would do it for the love of.
    I'm speculating of course.

    I say he transferred it into his name as unfit so it's his end of story

    But this just shows it's not the case so wright it clear and concise and don't loose the paper trail

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    Dumbass buyer never heard of “buyer beware”? I’d tell them to pound salt, take me to court all u want.

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    yep. F you, you bought it as is....don't come after me 6 weeks later after you have had the car in your possession.
    "Without Warning, Without Conscience"


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    In my eyes, any vehicle you purchase uncertified / unfit / hasn't been inspected by someone you know and trust.............. 110% on you and you only, yes even if it needs several times what it's worth in repairs.

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