The new minimum wage: are jobs being lost?

[Scrape]

Love going to Joey's at Don Mills and Lawrence.

We went to Joey's last Saturday. It was wonderful. They took our drink orders, we both had a nice French Grenache, then they gave us a free sample of some pork dumplings. They were soooo good we decided to get it as an appetizer. There was a lot of people there and a couple of really annoying kids. Then we ordered our main course. I had a delicious steak cooked to perfection, maybe they use sous-vide? Whatever they did it was great! My wife ordered the Hawaiian Tuna Tacos. We got married in Hawaii. While we were in Hawaii we took a helicopter ride, and we were on a cruise. The food on the cruise was very good but the service was mediocre. It wasn't as good as the cruise we took on the Mediterranean. Anyway, I digress. Joey's didn't seem to be short staffed due to the Liberals increasing the minimum wage. We didn't have desert because we were too full. There was a really annoying group of really old people at the table next to us. When they were done and leaving, one old woman (who was the more mobile of the trio) got up and put her coat on and proceeded to the door were she held it open for the other two. They took their bloody time getting up and dressed, and the entire time the front doors are open and everybody is freezing.

So I recommend Joey's.

[Quicksilver]

Business in my area have joined together to do job fairs around the province. Openings for upwards of 400 jobs. Most with benefits and none paying minimum wage. No one in our area can find people that are willing to show up and work.

LAst summer I decided that we should buy a $50,000 mini loader to dig and set post holes, excavate and that sort of thing. I got the machine in June, and unfortunately we have barely used it. I COULD NOT find workers for it. I advertised all summer for 2 people: an experienced operator, and a helper. I was willing to pay $25 and $18 respectively. The few people who had experience were all around $30. I even offered a medical/dental plan.
I hired one, who never showed up. The second one worked one day and never came back, not even to pick up his pay. A third worked two weeks, then his mom got sick and he had to be with her. Never came back.
I moved to $20 for the helper. Same thing. No shows, one day guys, complainers, slackers, umpteen people never even showing for an interview.
Not only that, but it's getting more and more difficult to find experienced skilled workers. I am one of the top payers in my industry, and yet the talent pool is dwindling.

Oh, and for the record: I am not one of those rich businessmen with boats and cottages and fancy nights out. No boat, no cottage, dinner at Montana's of Swiss Chalet, not enough put away to retire, ever. I'd truly be better off to work for someone.

[Mellow Yellow]

I understand the risks involved. I just think everyone has to adapt to the changes instead of blaming one another. Some businesses were able to slowely increase prices by a marginal degree in order to offset the minimum wage increase and thus survive ( for example ).

Im fortunate enough to have landed a decent job recently. However I had to deal with working shit minimum wage jobs ( before) and feeling the pressure of cost of living bills and all the other unnecessary over priced expenses.

I have no problem with business owners benefiting from their risks and hard work. Again, both parties should always think ahead and if shit hits the fan both parties need to "live within their means". If it means cutting back on projects, boats, fast cars or multi realestate then so be it.





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Or cutting back on staff!

[Mellow Yellow]

Business in my area have joined together to do job fairs around the province. Openings for upwards of 400 jobs. Most with benefits and none paying minimum wage. No one in our area can find people that are willing to show up and work.

Very prevalent situation.

Local business went through the hoops to find who they thought was the right candidate for the admin job, paying $18 an hour.
Agreed to everything.......the candidate never showed up to work. No contact, won't answer phones. Business has no idea what went wrong.

[Clutt gt]

Not to keep going on as it’s done and is what it is. But an example
I have a new hire that has a little experience on his resume.
Has been working on a Drywall patch less than two sheets of drywall installed 2’ off the floor. 3hrs and has not managed to install the board so we can tape.
He spent all day yesterday working hand in hand with a carpenter installing board.
Am I expecting too much for my minimum wage?
So yes I’m making money hand over fist off the back of minimum wage workers.

[Harbinger]

Very prevalent situation.

Local business went through the hoops to find who they thought was the right candidate for the admin job, paying $18 an hour.
Agreed to everything.......the candidate never showed up to work. No contact, won't answer phones. Business has no idea what went wrong.

That is unprofessional and irresponsible. Its unfortunate that there are people like this.

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[RedSN]

I COULD NOT find workers for it. I advertised all summer for 2 people: an experienced operator, and a helper. I was willing to pay $25 and $18 respectively. The few people who had experience were all around $30.
.... I am one of the top payers in my industry, and yet the talent pool is dwindling.

Experienced operators are getting $30, and you're willing to pay them $25. I don't think this makes you one of the top payers in your industry.

[03svt]

Not to keep going on as it’s done and is what it is. But an example
I have a new hire that has a little experience on his resume.
Has been working on a Drywall patch less than two sheets of drywall installed 2’ off the floor. 3hrs and has not managed to install the board so we can tape.
He spent all day yesterday working hand in hand with a carpenter installing board.
Am I expecting too much for my minimum wage?
So yes I’m making money hand over fist off the back of minimum wage workers.

How do you not lose your shit? Seriously?

[Clutt gt]

Well he shows up on time and sober, doesn’t text all day and wants to learn.
I hope he learns fast and stays around for a bit once he does learn. He’s young and inexperienced. He has to get that experience some where.
Yes it’s expensive to train the newbie.
Roughly 20 to 30% more expensive than it was.
Welcome to Ontario where everyone deserves to earn a decent wage regardless of what they can produce.

[True Blue]

Experienced operators are getting $30, and you're willing to pay them $25. I don't think this makes you one of the top payers in your industry.

I was running heavy equipment for 10 years and back in the early 2000's I was making $32/hr. The experienced operators I know, are making around $35-40/hr.