tough to guess on price. 20kplus I'd think. 12 no way.. there seems to be alot of people that think these are 12 14k cars as you described. I think that ships sailed. I'm back to foxes after a 18 yr break. now 38. happy to get a couple again. if you like it just get it. plus or minus a bit probably won't ruin you.. if the car speaks to you, just pull the trigger. live once.
ps. if you pass and hutch isn't intrested I'd be intrested