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Thread: Help Needed: Push Rod Power & Drag Suspension Setups

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    99chromegt
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    Help Needed: Push Rod Power & Drag Suspension Setups

    I want to start looking into push rod setups for drag racing. I'd like to be in the 10s-11s range. Even though I can see the merit of LS based setups I don't want to have a mustang powered by one. Call me crazy but I really like the new edge body style and have that 04 Mach 1 chassis to use. I have been kicking around the idea of making it a dual purpose R/C -strip car but I'd rather make it strip only. The 99GT is good enough to run on the R/C for now. The Mach is a blank slate because it has NOTHING attached to it. My idea is to blend the motor of an old school 351W Mach with the newer body.
    Setup I'm thinking of..please FEEL FREE TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS based on personal experience.

    Front suspension / Front end
    Team Z pushrod motor to new edge chassis swap tubular K member & coil overs
    http://www.teamzmotorsports.net/prod...-kmk-swap2.htm
    Spring rate? I have 12"/200 on the 99GT not sure what I should get for this setup.
    Team Z 2" Drop Spindles
    http://www.teamzmotorsports.net/prod...id-spindle.htm
    Strange Front Brakes
    http://www.teamzmotorsports.net/product_p/b4145wc.htm
    Flaming River Manual Steering Shaft
    http://www.teamzmotorsports.net/product_p/fr1509m.htm

    Rear Suspension:
    Team Z Grip Series #1
    http://www.teamzmotorsports.net/Grip..._p/tzm-gs1.htm

    Rear end:
    Team Z Mustang Bolt In Ford 9" Housing or just standard 8.8 housing??
    http://www.teamzmotorsports.net/product_p/tzm-9bi.htm
    Strange Pro Race 31 Spline Axles or with Spool??
    http://www.teamzmotorsports.net/product_p/p1007.htm
    What is a good diff?
    Strange Rear Brake Kit
    http://www.teamzmotorsports.net/product_p/b1706wc.htm
    Other :
    Brake master components
    Steeda full length sub frame connectors
    Custom built cage
    Sheet metal dash
    Seat / harness
    And of bunch of brake & fuel lines, cables, wiring.. etc
    Gauges, battery rear location box & shutoff switch
    Fuel cell
    Steering wheel
    Brake & accelerator pedal assembly
    Line lock +++??
    Management system
    And a bunch of other various parts to put the puzzle together.

    Might be further ahead to buy a roller however I want to build this from the ground up.
    Not sure if I want to build something to compete in a series with or just take to the strip and have fun for a few years. I will keep taking the 99 to the track for now with the goal in mind of this being a 2-3 year project. Chassis is coming into the garage this week so I can get started.

    Now for the fun stuff:
    Motor & transmission?
    Everyone keeps saying on a push rod all you need is a good cam & heads to make a 10s-11s build.
    What is a good cost effective route to go. Budget is just cash flow over a few years. Power goals... Whatever will get the above setup down the strip in 10-11s I want to stay N/A all motor. Must have a big lumpy cam. Transmission will be auto? Open to any suggestions.
    This is not a money is no object kind of deal so no $30000 motor suggestions please. It's kind of a grand or two every few months until it's done type budget.

    So thoughts?
    Cheers
    Andrew

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    Slope
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    What type of fuel?

    Will this car see legit street duty?

    Carb or EFI?

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    Subscribing , good luck man .

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    99chromegt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slope View Post
    What type of fuel?

    Will this car see legit street duty?

    Carb or EFI?
    No street duty and race fuel ok. Was thinking carb...

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    Slope
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99chromegt View Post
    No street duty and race fuel ok. Was thinking carb...
    408/427 351 Windsor based stroker (balanced obviously)
    12/12.5:1
    Custom solid roller
    950/1050 Holley
    Parker Funnel Web or Edelbrock Victor Jr/Super Victor
    Trick Flow TW225 Race heads, (maybe 240s)
    1-7/8" or 2" Primary longtubes
    3" exhaust

    This would be a sledgehammer, could go quite a bit more conservative...

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    Cheap n makes big h/p with heads n cam + the C6 is extremely stout.
    Do it.

    http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles..._engine_build/

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    Crash
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    Buy a FOX.
    I know a guy that has a few & maybe some race parts ....

  8. #8
    Slope
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99chromegt View Post
    Even though I can see the merit of LS based setups I don't want to have a mustang powered by one.
    We just got closer right there...

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    99chromegt
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    Both power plants are good options. Are 460s a lot heavier than 351W?
    Crash... I'll tag along with Frankie sometime soon and we will talk.

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    Slope
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99chromegt View Post
    Both power plants are good options. Are 460s a lot heavier than 351W?
    Yes.

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