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    I suspect Quebec has higher taxes, language laws that might be impactful. Ohio isn't all that far from Niagara.
    Maybe they are going to supply the US market, and easier to do from within its borders.

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    yeah law 101 is stupid... I mean really stupid. I remember some PQ or maybe even FLQ idiot started to scream at a poor worker there that the sign was only English "Payless". She and others yelled back that they offer good jobs for people and escorted him out. I bet he filed a complaint to the language police that day. I also remember said language police come into my work place and started giving my boss shit for using ENGLISH operating systems on our Macs (I think OS7 or OS9 back then). My boss chased them out with a baseball bat (no joke), we later drank some beers and smoke some weed in the factory (factory closed at 4pm, offices at 6ish, so at 4:20 we got stupid, that was a fun job).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 83 5.0 View Post
    I suspect Quebec has higher taxes, language laws that might be impactful. Ohio isn't all that far from Niagara.
    Maybe they are going to supply the US market, and easier to do from within its borders.
    Ohio is definitely much closer to where this greenhouse would have been located. 40 minutes to Windsor; 45 minutes to Ohio border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSN View Post
    Just putting this out there, not trying to paint a Liberal target on my back, but.......

    Ontario vs. Ohio

    Ontario: 58% nuclear, 22% hydro, 10% gas, 9% wind.
    https://www.cns-snc.ca/media/ontario...ectricity.html

    Ohio: 59% coal, 23% gas, 14% nuclear.
    http://www.puco.ohio.gov/puco/index.....vY1zL17k.dpbs


    Obviously it's cheaper to generate power from coal, but sooner or later they will have to join the 21st century.
    And excellent point Steve, if the price of electricity was their governing factor for moving, why not consider Quebec? Probably other factors contributing to their choice.
    Remember Quebec has high taxes. Just my two cents.

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    AG report

    http://news.nationalpost.com/full-co...nment-stoogery

    the level of waste and incompetence is fucking infuriating

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    They've managed to do absolutely nothing correctly..............besides flush money down the proverbial toilet.



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    Craving some popcorn

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    Ya... great shit show!!!

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    Business's just plain can't afford to operate in Ontario anymore.

    Byron Nelson has spent over three decades growing his manufacturing company in Ontario, only now to regret his choice.
    As he tours a group of reporters around his Leland Industries Scarborough plant where they build nuts and bolts for export to the United States and Europe, he explains he’s losing a battle with the province. His hydro bills have soared over the past year and with Ontario’s new cap-and-trade system coming into effect next month, electricity and natural gas costs will likely spike by another 20%.
    That’s why Nelson — and other manufacturers in the province — are choosing to expand their businesses in the U.S. instead of at home.
    “By 1995 to 2000, China had moved in and we fought China on the world trade and won,” Nelson said Tuesday during a press conference of the newly formed Coalition of Concerned Manufacturers in Ontario.
    “Now our bigger problem is we’ve got to fight the province on controlling some of our hydro costs, which have totally skyrocketed. Our electricity bill has already increased 42% over the past few years. I’ve done the math and I’m looking at a cost increase that is going to take it to over $800,000 a year and with cap-and-trade, it’ll be near $1 million.”
    Nelson said it’s these costs — which he says hasn’t been clearly mapped out by the government — that make it difficult for local manufacturers to survive, especially when these companies have already spent significant dollars reducing their environmental footprint.
    And while companies within the coalition don’t intend to lay off workers, they won’t be building in Ontario anymore. Leland Industries will make its next move in Illinois and other states until the province improves its energy policy.
    The coalition demands the government outline a better energy policy — and transparency on hydro and natural gas bills so they know where their money is going, said spokesman Jocelyn Williams Bamford, who is also the vice-president of Automatic Coating Ltd. in Scarborough.
    The Ministry of the Environment and Climate Change counters the cap and trade program won’t have a “significant impact” to electricity rates and some of the money from it will be used to offset electricity price increases by 2020.
    The province added its Industrial Conservation Incentive program allows up to 1,000 new businesses to reduce their electricity bills by up to one-third.

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