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    Quote Originally Posted by Legwound View Post
    Actual crime stats are way down. Crimes are just more reported, and the presentation is curated to fit given narratives.
    post was stating crime stats were down.
    others asid there were not, truth is crime stats are down. I dont see why there is argument there, he never said guns specificly

    in terms of gun crime Gang violence far far outweighs "mass shootings"

    Mass shootings are no more prelivent now then they were say 3 years ago.

    its also inaccurat that the USA has more than any other nation. allot of the stats that back that up dont factor in population or other factors.

    and no im not going to bother posting every single stat, its all free on the internet for anyone to see.
    been down that road too many times only to be told that somone who worked at the source once had an ex wife whose sisters, brother in law lived next to a lady who owned a dog that once shit on the lawn of a racist therefore the source is not reliable.

    question everyone is beating around teh bush about is are guns the cause? answer is still no and the fact that Cali has some of the strictest gun laws in the states backs that up.

    another horrable tragety that wont cause any movement to a resolve because too many choose to use the tagity to grandstand political pandering

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.4MarkVIII View Post
    post was stating crime stats were down.
    others asid there were not, truth is crime stats are down. I dont see why there is argument there, he never said guns specificly

    In a post about a mass shooting, the inference being made that the media is blowing this out of proportion

    in terms of gun crime Gang violence far far outweighs "mass shootings"

    Which still points to a gun problem

    Mass shootings are no more prelivent now then they were say 3 years ago.

    Perhaps more frequent, or prevalent was the wrong quantifier. Deadlier seems to be factually sound https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...esearch-215678

    its also inaccurat that the USA has more than any other nation. allot of the stats that back that up dont factor in population or other factors.

    I said developed nation, yes many South American nations being ravaged by war and drugs have more gun violence but I really wouldn't use that as a "we it all good here" rationale.

    and no im not going to bother posting every single stat, its all free on the internet for anyone to see.
    been down that road too many times only to be told that somone who worked at the source once had an ex wife whose sisters, brother in law lived next to a lady who owned a dog that once shit on the lawn of a racist therefore the source is not reliable.'

    I agreed with your statistics, what I'm debating is the interpretation that they point everything being alright, or at the vary least not cause for alarm

    question everyone is beating around teh bush about is are guns the cause? answer is still no and the fact that Cali has some of the strictest gun laws in the states backs that up.

    Located directly next to states with minimal gun control, its a national issue that cannot be totally eradicated at a state level

    another horrable tragety that wont cause any movement to a resolve because too many choose to use the tagity to grandstand political pandering

    Because no one is willing to accept that guns are the problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.4MarkVIII View Post
    Mass shootings are no more prelivent now then they were say 3 years ago.
    In 2015 there were 2 mass shootings where more than 10 were shot dead.
    In 2018 there were (so far) 4 mass shootings where more than 10 were shot dead.

    The numbers, if you want to use 5+ dead as the criteria are:
    2015 there were 14 mass shootings
    2018 there were (so far) 12 mass shootings

    So I guess it depends how many does it take to be considered a "mass shooting".
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSN View Post
    In 2015 there were 2 mass shootings where more than 10 were shot dead.
    In 2018 there were (so far) 4 mass shootings where more than 10 were shot dead.

    The numbers, if you want to use 5+ dead as the criteria are:
    2015 there were 14 mass shootings
    2018 there were (so far) 12 mass shootings

    So I guess it depends how many does it take to be considered a "mass shooting".
    part of the problem since it varies depending on who is using the stats to prove what point

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