Drive clean...

[Hutch]

I think they tried something like that with diesel and called it regen for short lol didn't last long and now they ammonia injection called DEF - does it work - some say not but the system is a real pain in the ass for trucking companies and very expensive to maintain. I think if I had a trucking company I would close the doors and let the suits Figure out how to get the freight to the shelve...CAT was the only smart one to get out of trucking all together

All new trucks have a dpf (diesel particulate filter) and SCR (selective catylist reduction). To burn the soot in the filter the internal temperatures have to get very high to burn it to ash. Roughly 1100 degrees. With increasing the exhaust temp to that level brings on another issue. High Nox. So then SCR was introduced to inject urea into the exhaust stream to cool the exhaust. From a technical standpoint the air going into the air filter is dirtier than the air coming out the tail pipe as far as particles. This is obviously if it working correctly. The after treatment system requires very little maintenance but no one ever does it until there is a problem. Is it a perfect system, no, but it’s much better than not using it. Europe is fully embracing electric trucks right now. The entire market is going to change. They even have companies that can retro fit your old diesel powered truck to electric. It will take a while for that to come over here because we can’t support it yet.

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All new trucks have a dpf (diesel particulate filter) and SCR (selective catylist reduction). To burn the soot in the filter the internal temperatures have to get very high to burn it to ash. Roughly 1100 degrees. With increasing the exhaust temp to that level brings on another issue. High Nox. So then SCR was introduced to inject urea into the exhaust stream to cool the exhaust. From a technical standpoint the air going into the air filter is dirtier than the air coming out the tail pipe as far as particles. This is obviously if it working correctly. The after treatment system requires very little maintenance but no one ever does it until there is a problem. Is it a perfect system, no, but it’s much better than not using it. Europe is fully embracing electric trucks right now. The entire market is going to change. They even have companies that can retro fit your old diesel powered truck to electric. It will take a while for that to come over here because we can’t support it yet.

Very cool !

[Laffs]

All new trucks have a dpf (diesel particulate filter) and SCR (selective catylist reduction). To burn the soot in the filter the internal temperatures have to get very high to burn it to ash. Roughly 1100 degrees. With increasing the exhaust temp to that level brings on another issue. High Nox. So then SCR was introduced to inject urea into the exhaust stream to cool the exhaust. From a technical standpoint the air going into the air filter is dirtier than the air coming out the tail pipe as far as particles. This is obviously if it working correctly. The after treatment system requires very little maintenance but no one ever does it until there is a problem. Is it a perfect system, no, but it’s much better than not using it. Europe is fully embracing electric trucks right now. The entire market is going to change. They even have companies that can retro fit your old diesel powered truck to electric. It will take a while for that to come over here because we can’t support it yet.

We've pretty much said once the all electric M2 is out and running we're going to replace our 4300's with it.

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We've pretty much said once the all electric M2 is out and running we're going to replace our 4300's with it.

Thats pretty exciting - i didn't realize the electric trucks where that far advanced already seems like just a year ago freight liner announced this - it's a fairly short range will that be sufficient for your use - my wife drives a school bus i often said the new freight liner tech would be perfect for school buses - the only thing I can't imagine is how it will be possible to charge a large fleet I have a gazillion other questions too, but that's pretty exciting - do you think it would be wise to get rid of the diesel truck or will you hang onto it fr a while...? I'm curious too will you getting the cascadia...?

[Hutch]

Thats pretty exciting - i didn't realize the electric trucks where that far advanced already seems like just a year ago freight liner announced this - it's a fairly short range will that be sufficient for your use - my wife drives a school bus i often said the new freight liner tech would be perfect for school buses - the only thing I can't imagine is how it will be possible to charge a large fleet I have a gazillion other questions too, but that's pretty exciting - do you think it would be wise to get rid of the diesel truck or will you hang onto it fr a while...? I'm curious too will you getting the cascadia...?

They will have supercharging stations. These in the future will be at ever loading dock. Buses are another thing going full electric. When the bus pulls up to a stop it will be under a supercharging station with very high voltage. Like I said earlier we don’t have the infrastructure to support it quite yet.

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They will have supercharging stations. These in the future will be at ever loading dock. Buses are another thing going full electric. When the bus pulls up to a stop it will be under a supercharging station with very high voltage. Like I said earlier we don’t have the infrastructure to support it quite yet.

this is pretty exciting to me - i've been a mechanic in the trucking industry since 94 - i've grown to hate working on trucks and have been working on trailers (mainly mobile) the last twenty years and have become very bored with it all as I plan to leave the industry - it all seems still far away but perhaps this could keep me in the industry - it all sounds great but does sound very expensive but the idea of no diesel fumes appeals to me i won't even work in a shop anymore mainly because of fumes...I remember many years ago CAT, i think was messing around with Hydrogen but i don't think it lasted too long...

[Laffs]

Thats pretty exciting - i didn't realize the electric trucks where that far advanced already seems like just a year ago freight liner announced this - it's a fairly short range will that be sufficient for your use - my wife drives a school bus i often said the new freight liner tech would be perfect for school buses - the only thing I can't imagine is how it will be possible to charge a large fleet I have a gazillion other questions too, but that's pretty exciting - do you think it would be wise to get rid of the diesel truck or will you hang onto it fr a while...? I'm curious too will you getting the cascadia...?

We're a construction company and our service area is typically 3 hours. No real need for a highway tractor at this time. We have a couple large cubes on 4300 chassis, honestly between diesel fuel prices and maintenance theres been no savings on fuel vs v10 gas chassis trucks. We're talking phasing them out once the 4300's hit the optimal hold (400k km or so) and replacing with electric M2's if theyre available at that time. Honestly wish the E-M2 was ready to go now since I need a new (to us) chassis for our hi lift dump which sees super minimal mileage and would perfect for EV tech. Will have to wait and see how PTO is handled with EV trucks, imagine running an electrically drive PTO will destroy batteries life. May be a while before our dumps and boom trucks are EV....

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We're a construction company and our service area is typically 3 hours. No real need for a highway tractor at this time. We have a couple large cubes on 4300 chassis, honestly between diesel fuel prices and maintenance theres been no savings on fuel vs v10 gas chassis trucks. We're talking phasing them out once the 4300's hit the optimal hold (400k km or so) and replacing with electric M2's if theyre available at that time. Honestly wish the E-M2 was ready to go now since I need a new (to us) chassis for our hi lift dump which sees super minimal mileage and would perfect for EV tech. Will have to wait and see how PTO is handled with EV trucks, imagine running an electrically drive PTO will destroy batteries life. May be a while before our dumps and boom trucks are EV....

That sounds like a good plan I was wondering about PTO's - hydraulic lift gates and air brakes amoung other things. Maybe you could use a stand alone power source mounted to the truck that works on fuel for eg. I use (not so much anymore) a large stick welder that doubles as a generator by Teledyne thing makes phase three power on the generator side - it is powers with a 20 hours Honda and gets decent fuel economy . use it to power my Lincoln 6o plasma cutter also poweresd a customers complete office when their was that big black out a few years ago in the summer - come to think of it that was my last vaca...lol its an awesome Machine an dive seen them mounted to trucks in construction related industry