Ford Officially Calls 5.0L Coyote Ticking Sound a Normal Characteristic

[Scrape]

Ford has finally issued an official statement on the Mustang GT 5.0L Coyote engine’s ticking.

In this official release (https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/per-ford-officially-the-2011-2019-f150-mustang-5-0-“typewriter-tick”-is-a-normal-characteristic.116925/) on the ticking sound experienced by some GT owners, Ford calls these “typewriter tick” sounds an “operating characteristic of the 5.0L engine and no repairs should be attempted.

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[Scrape]

LOL!
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[Screw]

Wow

[True Blue]

Not surprised. Engine doesn't blow up, all is good.

[ZR]

Normal eh, so why don't you hear noise from all of em?

[hammerhead]

I've yet to change my oil I'm just over 5000k- I will do it once the season begins - I idle it once or twice a week I hear nothing unusual from the bottom end - the noise I do hear are from pulley movements (I believe) and once the car reaches temp it is much quieter - hear no engine noise in the cab - not sure I would want this engine in a work truck that is dedicated just for work and maybe that's the reason for the new iron block (just a guess) because I think maintenance should be a top priority with this engine - good quality oil - and with boost one may want to try and keep crank case pressure down...I will listen after the first oil change and see - what can you do...! The 2018 has four knock sensors - and I see a lot on the road still driving around (even the 5.0's in this weather)

[RedSN]

what's the source of the tick?
I could be from the equipped trunk monkey.
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https://youtu.be/Rx6WB5YJia8

[Uncle Buck]

I've always thought the injectors on my 3V were a bit noisy.

[Ponyryd]

That’s pretty poor spelling and punctuation for an official Ford dicument

[Darkhorse]

Send it.

[Scrape]

I am sure someone copied it onto Mustang 6g so errors are going to be there.

[Ponyryd]

I am sure someone copied it onto Mustang 6g so errors are going to be there.

Ha, it happens....clearly as my post complaining about their spelling shows :)

[SPEED]

Put some 5/30 in instead of that energy saving water 5/20https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190214/47070127239d2137130d26c0bade922c.jpg

[ZR]

Or even better, put in what they should have suggested in the first place, 10w30.

[hammerhead]

makes me wonder what it came with from the factory if most of this ticking is after the first oil change - never would of guessed years ago that engine oil would be a big concern for an everyday engine driver

[hammerhead]

16124

has anyone every tried this...? will it void warranty…?

[RedSN]

^^^guess it depends what you are planning on putting that stuff in?

it's a gear oil additive for trac-lok rear diff's.

[newbiestangowner]

16124

has anyone every tried this...? will it void warranty…?

In my gen I was reading people using that to stop crunch or crushing rocks when changing gears not as addictive to motor oil. Why u didn’t add that to your motor oil did u.


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[SPEED]

16124

has anyone every tried this...? will it void warranty…?I haven't tried that one but my buddy a big drag racer likes this one.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190214/8492408ecabc8081fb3f076d812f6670.jpg

[hammerhead]

^^^guess it depends what you are planning on putting that stuff in?

it's a gear oil additive for trac-lok rear diff's.

I read a report stated it could also be used in the engine - that's why I'm wondering if anyone uses it - I've never really used additives before and read some bad things about some, especially everyone's favorite Seafoam - I did use sea foam once in bad fuel and I have to say it got me off the side of the road and home. Was filling up the old Plymouth with super and got a tank full of diesel - the driver the night before pumped the diesel into the super tank and vise versa - a lot of pissed off people that day in Shelburne...lol

[hammerhead]

In my gen I was reading people using that to stop crunch or crushing rocks when changing gears not as addictive to motor oil. Why u didn’t add that to your motor oil did u.


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www.carbibles.com/best-oil-additives-reviewed/ it's in here maybe it's something different...

[Screw]

https://youtu.be/JrHe4k-5yKo

[hammerhead]

^^^ That Ceratec Moly is in the website I posted above - I was looking into it - It's a graphite like additive with ceramic particles - I'm not sure I would use that in a modern engine - I would be worried about clogging the oil filter (may be ok with a quality extended filter) and the particles may act like a zinc base oil which is ok with old engines that ran on leaded gas and maybe early unleaded engines with carbs...not sure I will put any additives in my oil going to read the owners manual again

[hammerhead]

www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/1709-inside-look-at-the-new-2018-coyote-block/ - a good look at the ne gen3 coyote block

[Monera3v]

Someone in the states bought a brand new 2018 off the lot.
Got home and tore the engine down.
They stated the rods are too loose on the crank journal, allowing for too much play, further destroying the walls, shaving gets into everything and soon failure.

They replaced almost all the upper heads portion of a buddies 2018 because of itching in the cam.
I am guessing metal made it up there and destroy the cam.
did it fix the tick? Nope.

Ford say they won't replace the motor because they already did the work on it.

He now has to fight HQ to get the motor replaced, as its smoking now.

#rip 3rd gen motor.

[stangstevers]

Are we going to see the return of the pushrod? Like a 5.0 version of the new 2020 v8?

Mine doesn’t tick yet but louder exhaust probably blocking it lol

[pwrab]

My ‘18 GT is at 8900kms. Still not sure if this is a ‘2018 only’ issue. An ‘early’ 2018 issue. Or a ‘2018 AND 2019’ issue.....?
Either way, I’m going to put Mobil 1 5w30 in going forward.

[Mellow Yellow]

I've always thought the injectors on my 3V were a bit noisy.

I have over 284,000 kms on my 2005 3v. All sorts of injector and cam phaser noises have been there from the beginning. I haven't had any issues so far....touching wood!


I also asked my dealer rep about the 5.0 in my F150....she gave me the exact answer the original poster presented.

[Mellow Yellow]

Put some 5/30 in instead of that energy saving water 5/20https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190214/47070127239d2137130d26c0bade922c.jpg

I don't know....I put 5-30 in my 2005 3v shortly after I bought it and the cam phasers start to sound like they were coming out of the engine. There are a lot of plastic parts in there that may not be able to handle the pressure. Went back to 5-20 and everything settled down to "normal"

[hammerhead]

I don't know....I put 5-30 in my 2005 3v shortly after I bought it and the cam phasers start to sound like they were coming out of the engine. There are a lot of plastic parts in there that may not be able to handle the pressure. Went back to 5-20 and everything settled down to "normal"

I have to agree with you on this - since I purchased my s550 three months ago I've done a lot if reading on oil - enough to turn me off ketchup and things of the like, but that's another story - in everything I read lead me to believe that 5w20 was probably the best choice for today's average engine - 0w20 seemed to be that next best but would break down sooner - I believe. API stands for minimum standards so I wouldn't go cheap and would stick to full synthetic. Saying all this it's not what I will be using lol because I don't think the coyote or anything pushing 350 HP or more and boosted are average grocery getter engines. When I change my oil I'm going to send sample out the see what was actually in there from the factory assuming the car has the original oil as it had 5ooo on it when I purchased it.

[newbiestangowner]

I have to agree with you on this - since I purchased my s550 three months ago I've done a lot if reading on oil - enough to turn me off ketchup and things of the like, but that's another story - in everything I read lead me to believe that 5w20 was probably the best choice for today's average engine - 0w20 seemed to be that next best but would break down sooner - I believe. API stands for minimum standards so I wouldn't go cheap and would stick to full synthetic. Saying all this it's not what I will be using lol because I don't think the coyote or anything pushing 350 HP or more and boosted are average grocery getter engines. When I change my oil I'm going to send sample out the see what was actually in there from the factory assuming the car has the original oil as it had 5ooo on it when I purchased it.

You worry too much . At least your s550 will be well looked after oil wise lol. Mine always received the standard oil with regular intervals, and it’s a grocery getter, vacation transport, Home Depot delivery truck, track car, occasional “race car in Mexico” with high kms- the motor hasn’t blown up yet ( knock on wood) - tick or no tick


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[hammerhead]

Lol my seat folds down so you might see a few 2x4's sticking out occasionally - ur right tho I do worry about it - I think ketchup might be good additive but I'm not trying that

[Armen]

Me na tic heeer.

[SVOMACH1]

My service manager said Ford is now recommending 5 50 full synthetic for the Bullitt. Ordering Amsoil Signature Series in the next few weeks.

[Mustang4]

My service manager said Ford is now recommending 5 50 full synthetic for the Bullitt. Ordering Amsoil Signature Series in the next few weeks.
Well 2018 is near the 5,000km so this looks like the order I’ll be making as well. If it’s good enough for the Bullit....

[hammerhead]

My service manager said Ford is now recommending 5 50 full synthetic for the Bullitt. Ordering Amsoil Signature Series in the next few weeks.

that's probably the best of the three Amsoil products for the s550 in my opinion...

[WidowrRacing]

Mobile 1 syn 10w30 is all I’ve ever used in my 03 Cobra and 5L F150 and no ticks or issues with either one.

[Gr8Stang]

I have to agree with you on this - since I purchased my s550 three months ago I've done a lot if reading on oil - enough to turn me off ketchup and things of the like, but that's another story - in everything I read lead me to believe that 5w20 was probably the best choice for today's average engine - 0w20 seemed to be that next best but would break down sooner - I believe. API stands for minimum standards so I wouldn't go cheap and would stick to full synthetic. Saying all this it's not what I will be using lol because I don't think the coyote or anything pushing 350 HP or more and boosted are average grocery getter engines. When I change my oil I'm going to send sample out the see what was actually in there from the factory assuming the car has the original oil as it had 5ooo on it when I purchased it.

I used blackstone labs a few times and think it's worth it to find out: 1. General condition of the motor internals, i.e. wear metal levels, 2. How the oil itself is holding up at time of change, i.e. shear and viscosity.

Cheap insurance IMO.

[ALLKHEINZ]

just add boost and turn it up thats how id deal with the tick. on another note for thioe that dont mind dropping some coin to beef things up u can have a non sleeved shortblock built to handle 1000hp for about $6000usd....if any of mine start ticking thats my option...chasing ford around for a motor replacement that is likely to develop the same problem makes no sense to me....some people have also tried seratec liqui moly additive with some success...is the noise a pain in the arse? YES, but if it doesnt effect performance then just turn up the stereo..lol

[Old Fart]

So if moly seems to help, I fixed my Ram hemi tick with Redline oil. Got the information on ramforum.com... https://www.ramforum.com/threads/synthetic-oil.27664/ . That synthetic oil thread is long, took me a month to read! Redline oil has high molybdenum among other additives and has a high success rate with fixing the hemi tick. It's not cheap...Partsource regular price is $65 for a 4 US quarts jug. Maybe it would work for the Ford tick?

[JonsMustang]

My trunk monkey still sleeping since 2013.

[hammerhead]

So if moly seems to help, I fixed my Ram hemi tick with Redline oil. Got the information on ramforum.com... https://www.ramforum.com/threads/synthetic-oil.27664/ . That synthetic oil thread is long, took me a month to read! Redline oil has high molybdenum among other additives and has a high success rate with fixing the hemi tick. It's not cheap...Partsource regular price is $65 for a 4 US quarts jug. Maybe it would work for the Ford tick?

Moly and zinc are for the most part left out of modern oil and the high amounts of detergent clean away what little moly and zinc are in the engine protecting the vital parts like the lower end so adding the moly will help it may not be a controlled amount and not recommended to use in a noisey automatic transmission

[Old Fart]

^^^I thought this thread was about ticking engines?

[hammerhead]

^^^I thought this thread was about ticking engines?

Lol Mike not sure if tour referring to me or the trunk monkeys the cams need moly and zinc too to protect from the constant contact in that area - some people complain about lower end noise as well which could be caused from pre ignition or just plain neglect

[Old Fart]

I was referring to your comment about the automatic transmission.

[hammerhead]

I was referring to your comment about the automatic transmission.

OK I see some people might inclined to put moly in their automatic transmission its not recommended but could be used in a stick - some motorcycles operate with a wet clutch as well and share the engine oil here a moly or zinc base oil shouldn't be used either only detergent based oils