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Rino
05-01-2016, 08:14 PM
Going to pick one of these up and install it.53285329

Scrape
05-01-2016, 09:50 PM
Hey Rino I just removed mine when I had my car. Was so much better without it.

Rino
05-02-2016, 07:22 AM
This is a lower tension(95lbs) so ,you will get better feel.I was thinking of taking the stock one out also .Then I found the Steeda spring and can have the best of both worlds.

ZR
05-02-2016, 07:28 AM
Interested to hear how you like it / differences noted.

Rino
05-02-2016, 07:33 AM
I haven't installed it yet. I still have to drive out to Milton and pick one up.But I will post how it feels and the differences,compared to the stock 200lbs spring.

Scrape
05-02-2016, 08:08 AM
Hmmm. Interesting to hear of your findings on this new spring.

cf105arrow
05-02-2016, 04:02 PM
Going to show my ignorance here but how does it increase clutch pressure if the pound/inch is lower?

Ray721
05-02-2016, 05:13 PM
I run no spring at all lol.

allicedout
05-03-2016, 12:21 PM
Got in to a buddies 2003 Corvette Z06 a few weeks back...... Our clutch pedal feels like a pillow compared to it. I'd love to try someones out one day and see what all the hype is about. Just out of curiosity what purpose does it serve? Is it just to lighten the pedal?

ZR
05-03-2016, 12:29 PM
Claims to make pedal travel more linear with better clutch feel.

RedSN
05-03-2016, 12:43 PM
Aren't the clutches hydraulic?

Clearly I'm not picturing what this spring does.

Stephen06GT
05-03-2016, 12:48 PM
Aren't the clutches hydraulic?

Clearly I'm not picturing what this spring does.

I was thinking the same thing.

Rino
05-03-2016, 01:00 PM
Yes they are hydraulic.The clutch pedal comes with a "helper" spring, to do just that help.Its suppose to be really hard with out it.I've heard that its's just a little stiffer.The 200lbs spring makes things a little sloppy,the Steeda spring makes things smoother,supposebly. I'm removing it today,and installing it a soon as I pick it up Friday.

allicedout
05-03-2016, 01:27 PM
I still don't quite get it but please keep us posted I'm interested on your opinion of the before and after.....

Rino
05-03-2016, 01:38 PM
Ok removed the stock 200lbs assist spring. It is much stiffer to ingauge ,but I like it .The pedal has a little play at the top,where before it didn't.Going to pick up my son from school and will give another update.

Rino
05-03-2016, 01:40 PM
It feels like the Centerforce Racing clutch,that I had in my 85 GT.

allicedout
05-03-2016, 01:42 PM
Ok so your reducing the assist, or increasing the required force to engage the the clutch...... correct?

RedSN
05-03-2016, 02:37 PM
Couldn't google much about this, but it sounds like the this spring helps 'push down' on the clutch pedal to reduce the effort required to depress the clutch?
In other words: it's riding the clutch all day long?
So installing a 95lb spring versus a 200lb spring is going to make the pedal harder to push?

LOL, I put a put a spring on my clutch pedal to do the opposite! I guess you could say my clutch has a -2lb spring.

Rino
05-03-2016, 03:05 PM
Steeda say's it's more of a linear application with the 95lbs as to the 200lbs.It also stops it from sticking when power-shifting. It's totally different than ,your set up.

Ray721
05-03-2016, 03:13 PM
For clarification.

The whole theory behind removing the spring, was to stop the clutch from sticking to the floor during high RPM shifting. The spring helps push the pedal down. However, with the MT82 being the colossal pile of garbage it is, It sticks to the floor. Not everyone has had it happen, but it does happen. It's happened to me so I yanked mine out.

Once removed, the slop at the top of the pedal is revealed. Some people didn't like this so steeda came up with a solution. A spring with enough tension to take up the slop but not strong enough to keep the pedal on the floor.

Hope this helps clarify anything.

allicedout
05-03-2016, 03:38 PM
Thanks for clarification. The MT82 seems to be a hit or miss..... Mine shifts like butter and I've never had the pedal stick, must be my granny shifting!! But if what RedSN is saying is correct, then maybe I should look at switching it out for the Steeda one. Last thing I want is the clutch riding. If I see one of you at a meet or show I'd definitely like to try it out and see the difference in pedal feel.

Ray721
05-03-2016, 04:05 PM
If I still have the car you're more than welcome to try it out.

Rino
05-06-2016, 02:19 PM
Ok just an update. Steeda had to order my spring .They have the 35lbs spring for the 2015-2017 gt's but the S197 spring just came out. I got Shaun to order it and ship it to me. I'm driving around now with out the assist spring. When you first start the car the clutch engages right at the bottom.After a few pumps of the clutch it goes back up. The clutch pedal never goes back all the way up like when the spring is in. There is play in the pedal. It feels sloppy. The other thing is that without the assist spring, power shifting is no problem.(just ask the WRX I killed at the lights last night) lol. :dragster:

Ray721
05-06-2016, 05:58 PM
Ok just an update. Steeda had to order my spring .They have the 35lbs spring for the 2015-2017 gt's but the S197 spring just came out. I got Shaun to order it and ship it to me. I'm driving around now with out the assist spring. When you first start the car the clutch engages right at the bottom.After a few pumps of the clutch it goes back up. The clutch pedal never goes back all the way up like when the spring is in. There is play in the pedal. It feels sloppy. The other thing is that without the assist spring, power shifting is no problem.(just ask the WRX I killed at the lights last night) lol. :dragster:

My pedal will settle after sitting over night. Before I start the car I put my foot under it to bring it back up then pump it a couple times.

I'm actually gonna reinstall the spring now that I've been driving so long without it and see if there's a difference.

allicedout
05-16-2016, 02:56 PM
If I still have the car you're more than welcome to try it out.

Thanks....... ass!!

Rino
06-01-2016, 07:21 AM
Ok finally got the "Clutch Assist Spring "from Steeda. Installed it and drove for a day. I have to say, it is a much better feel than the stock OEM. It has a more linear travel,than the OEM. When you release the clutch ,it doesn't bully it's way up, like the regular spring.Did a couple of powershifts and had no problem..The OEM spring makes the clutch pedal feel sloppy.The Steeda spring clears that up,and makes it feel much better.Without a spring in ,was also good ,but didn't like having to lift the pedal with my foot a couple times before starting the car.It also had a little play when it was fully up. Its one of the best and most inexpensive ($20) mods you can do on a S197. IMO.

allicedout
06-01-2016, 07:59 AM
Nice to hear, I think I will I'm going to get one to try.

Scrape
06-01-2016, 08:01 AM
That sounds like a great improvement.

allicedout
06-01-2016, 08:29 AM
Just placed my order on steeda.ca, if anyone is looking its under the S550 section and not under S197.

Rino
06-01-2016, 09:20 AM
When I placed my order they did not have the S197 spring .They didn't know about it.They had the S550 which is a different spring (35LBS). Steeda had to place an order for the 95LBS S197 spring.It had just come out the week before ,on the American site.I order it and told them to order a whole bunch because its cheep and does what it suppose to do.

Rino
06-01-2016, 09:22 AM
the part # is 555-7023, Steeda 2001-2014 replacement clutch spring.

Rino
06-01-2016, 09:24 AM
Going to pick one of these up and install it.53285329

this one

ZR
06-01-2016, 12:46 PM
Thanks for the follow up. Always cool hearing how it performs after the install.

Stephen06GT
06-01-2016, 01:01 PM
I'm sorry, but I must be missing something. I still don't get it. As the clutch is hydraulic, how does this spring effect "clutch pressure"? I've driven Ol Paint over 160000 kms and the clutch feel has always been fine (well except the day the slave crapped out and puked fluid everywhere). is this an S197 thing, or just a Coyote powered thing?

NickD
06-01-2016, 01:53 PM
I'm sorry, but I must be missing something. I still don't get it. As the clutch is hydraulic, how does this spring effect "clutch pressure"? I've driven Ol Paint over 160000 kms and the clutch feel has always been fine (well except the day the slave crapped out and puked fluid everywhere). is this an S197 thing, or just a Coyote powered thing?
It's a Chinese trans thing, doesn't affect the 3v's lol

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Rino
06-01-2016, 02:15 PM
It's got nothing to do with the pressure plate. Its just for the clutch pedal itself. If you remove the assist spring, the clutch pedal is sloppy and stiffer than with it on. With the OEM 200lbs/inch spring, you get to a point where the spring pushes the clutch pedal up faster than most people want.This is one of the reason why a lot of guy's are miss shifting.With the replacement 95lbs/inch spring, you get a smoother more predicable rate that the clutch pedal goes back up.The pressure plate and clutch assist spring are all in sync with each other,making for a better feel and clutch engagement, predictability.If that makes any sense:mechanic:lol

allicedout
06-01-2016, 02:24 PM
When I placed my order they did not have the S197 spring .They didn't know about it.They had the S550 which is a different spring (35LBS). Steeda had to place an order for the 95LBS S197 spring.It had just come out the week before ,on the American site.I order it and told them to order a whole bunch because its cheep and does what it suppose to do.

So I ordered the wrong one......

Rino
06-01-2016, 04:47 PM
just call them and they'll fix it

allicedout
06-03-2016, 03:02 PM
So I called Steeda today, the difference between the 11-14 spring and 15+ spring is the weight. The 11-14 is 95lbs and the 15+ is 35lbs. That being said Steeda tells me that they're selling a lot more of the 35lbs springs. I wasn't sure what to do so the gentleman I spoke to said go ahead and install it, if I didn't like how it felt to just bring it back and he'd gladly exchange it for the 95lbs one. +1 one for the service at Steeda.

Rino
06-04-2016, 07:59 PM
let us know how it feels once you put it in.

allicedout
06-18-2016, 08:37 AM
Still haven't got to it, is it easy to remove? According to what I've read its as easy as depress the clutch, needle nose vice grips to compress the spring and the push. Does that sound about right?

Ray721
06-18-2016, 10:17 AM
It's very easy. I made a video on YouTube lol.

https://youtu.be/AHiGHuQXpe0


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allicedout
06-19-2016, 01:12 PM
Awesome thanks Ray!