I quoted you Rick, but a few others mentioned a similar thing. Just curious what kind of percentage you would expect to see if the vaccines were mostly effective?
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all that really matters when considering "vaccinated vs un vaccinated. is the severity of the cases. if you have eh shot you can still catch it but hopefully a mild case. no one cares that hundreds of millions catch a cold every year. that's the goal and hopefully what omicron will give us. so far its looking promising. despite the media and government fear mongering.
I’m wel aware of how the Government acquires its power. Your missing the point of how were being manipulated through fear and being tricked into releasing our power to them. Government should have minimal interest in our daily lives.
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Look how well the vax is protecting us….and all it cost us was our freedom-no big deal.
im curious if an aspect of this is that people who are less likely to be vaccinated or care about being fully vaccinated are also less likely to go get a test if they have the sniffles.
as well as an aspect from our bloated public service sectors where most places both vaccine and tests are mandatory
Just from my perspective, when I brought my son to his Paediatricians they have the covid questionnaire. Everyone fills out the questions but at the bottom of it, it says if you have gotten the Vax please say no to all. Well isn’t that just a joke. It took me a lot to calm down after that, to mire suggest that because your vaxxed covid doesn’t apply to you. Now I say this because I believe that in just seeing this for my self that the evidence supports that vaxxed people are being over looked intentionally.
The news reported that full Vax are being infected more, but they are doing this on purpose. Why ? Because out of let’s say 1000 vaxxed, they are saying maybe 80 end up in hospital where out of 1000 unvaxxed about 2-300 end up in hospitals. It’s just a game to get people vaxxed. It should still be a personal choice tho, clearly your own choices affect your own growth according to this information specifically
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The Ministry of Health says that 778 of Friday’s cases involve unvaccinated people, 96 involve partially vaccinated people, 2,120 involve fully vaccinated people and 130 have an unknown vaccination status.
Approximately 18 per cent of the Ontario population is unvaccinated and they made up 25 per cent of all cases, while 68 per cent of Friday’s cases involved fully vaccinated people and they make up 77 per cent of the province’s population.
the big number is how many end up in hospital
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That number seems very low. I read something yesterday that said over 80% were vaxxed, which seems high to me.
https://covid19tracker.ca/provincevac.html?p=ON
Number seems to float up and down at will.
My coworker doesn’t want the vax. Doesn’t like being poked by sharp object I guess. She’s also afraid of insects that fly lol.
Last I read it was 86% of people were vaccinated. Now whether that is true or not who knows.
^Not sure if it’s true but I posted the stats from Ontario in post #55. It says 76% fully, 81% have 1 dose…….yet more people are infected than ever, and we are bringing back lockdowns, so yea, the vax is good, lol.
I guess the vax is good in the sense that it’s preventing serious illness and death. If people actually thought we were going to be completely “immune” from a coronavirus then they’re a bit of a dough head.
They’ve said numerous times we’ll have to learn to live with the virus then turn around and make rules to upend our lives every couple months. Bunch of dick wallets.
There’s no real proof of that, nor is there any proof on how long the vax will help, which is why IMO natural immunity is far superior. I do know that many in the hospital ICUs are fully vaxxed…..I will admit the vaxxed numbers currently in there are a lower. And to be fair, plenty of “officials” stated the vax would make you immune, Joe Biden being one of them, so you can’t really blame people for believing it.
I agree with the rest of your post. Fully.
Data to back that up? Or opinion?
Sounds like it's most doctors though.
Regarding natural immunity... Dr. Peter McCullough is an academic internist, cardiologist, and a trained epidemiologist located in Dallas, Texas. Jump to 3:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiO9V6-ZLpQ
no not at all only the ones who haven't seen a patient in decades and are getting rich talking on tv
we are all just going to ignore the video posted where the expert states that the data show natural immunity is proving superior? because it says something different that what you believe?
tell you what just come back to this thread in a few years and you can tell me I was right.
this will be ignored because it goes against preconceived ideas held. later they will claim no backing was given for said argument and demand studies and commentary by experts meanwhile failing to ever post anything to back their own opinions. same game different day
Watched the video - this guy could have been on "Plandemic" with the other "doctors" and "researchers" (ok, there were maybe a couple). Another MAGA guy politicizing the issue - the one article he is known for during the pandemic does not address natural immunity with regards to COVID (or any other from my read of it) nor reference any legitimate studies on it but the article gets quoted as a study. I guess he didn't want to talk about his association with Jan 6 insurrectionists like Andrew Brenner and Simone Gold/America’s Frontline Doctors who are making millions on filling online prescriptions for alternative meds like horse de-wormers, etc. I wonder how many of the commenters on the video actually understood what Peter was saying? I guess they could sign up for this webinar https://oh.childrenshealthdefense.or...ght-to-choose/ and see what he was recommending to gargle to fight off infections.
Of the confirmed cases today, 746 involve people who are unvaccinated, 119 involve those who are partially immunized, 2,781 involve fully vaccinated people, and 138 involve those with an unknown vaccination status.
^^The math of the population and vaxxed/unvaxxed percentages would still show that the unvaxxed infections at a higher rate on the unvaxxed population, and that does not factor in the outcomes of the infections.