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ZR
09-12-2020, 10:21 AM
Esteban Ocon went for a big spin in the Renault, but that sadly sent him off the track and ruined laps for all those behind him - who had to slow because of the yellow flags.
One of those behind was Valtteri Bottas, who will feel he has missed a chance with Hamilton not improving.

https://e3.365dm.com/20/09/768x432/skysports-estaban-ocon-formula-one_5094313.jpg?20200912151125

xeninworx
09-12-2020, 10:30 AM
I root for Hamilton all the time. I don’t care what people say about him and Mercedes. Ferrari dominated for a while then Red Bull dominated for 4 years. I like that Hamilton is breaking records. If you’re not breaking records, you’re not improving.

Zippy
09-12-2020, 10:32 AM
Got into F1 by watching the Netflix series.... havn't missed a race since. It's refreshing to watch after being so disappointed with how Nascar is ran.

xeninworx
09-12-2020, 10:52 AM
Yeah I hadn’t watched F1 for a few years then watched Drive to Survive. Now I’m back in it. Even got some Mercedes/Hamilton swag. Kinda funny driving my Mustang wearing a Mercedes F1 cap lol.

ZR
09-12-2020, 10:59 AM
Netflix series hooked me as well.
Ditto on find it refreshing vs Nascar's disaster.

hammerhead
09-12-2020, 12:43 PM
Nice thread Rick - haven't been following for a number of years and now I can...!

hammerhead
09-12-2020, 12:53 PM
I root for Hamilton all the time. I don’t care what people say about him and Mercedes. Ferrari dominated for a while then Red Bull dominated for 4 years. I like that Hamilton is breaking records. If you’re not breaking records, you’re not improving.

His skill was very noticeable with Mclaren just didn't have the car - I have to agree with you and haven't seen too many races since he joined Mercedes - My favorite memory and move was his last race with Mclaren...when his replacement tried to prove to his new boss (Mclaren) that he was a better driver then Hamilton - his quest didn't fair to well and his car was trashed...it was classic - I don't remember his name but he was from Mexico could still be with Mclaren

Rich-C
09-12-2020, 02:25 PM
Hamilton is the best no doubt, but I’m a Verstappen fan. Max will be ready to pounce when fashion distracts Hamilton lol

Zippy
09-12-2020, 02:27 PM
Max just has to hope Hamilton gets bored and retires. I think Max has the rest of the field covered for the most part.

xeninworx
09-12-2020, 06:03 PM
His skill was very noticeable with Mclaren just didn't have the car - I have to agree with you and haven't seen too many races since he joined Mercedes - My favorite memory and move was his last race with Mclaren...when his replacement tried to prove to his new boss (Mclaren) that he was a better driver then Hamilton - his quest didn't fair to well and his car was trashed...it was classic - I don't remember his name but he was from Mexico could still be with Mclaren

I think you’re referring to Perez. McLaren have been in a slump since then but they’re bouncing back. Ricciardo will be happy next year if they keep it up. I’m sure Sainz is probably a little worried about next year with Ferrari.

Stephen06GT
09-13-2020, 10:57 AM
Watching Lance Stroll just hop on a scooter and then walk down the pit lane after such a hard hit is mind boggling. F1 may be the “pinnacle of motorsports” but they could learn a thing or three from the NASCAR safety teams and the NHRA safety safari.

xeninworx
09-13-2020, 11:06 AM
Well no Canadians in the race now

Zippy
09-13-2020, 03:26 PM
It's kinda nuts seeing how poorly the wrecks get cleared in F1. Every single time it's an absolute mess. It looks like they all have zero training.

ZR
09-13-2020, 05:57 PM
Agree with Stephen and Ross. For such an advanced racing organization, accident related responses look bush league.

ZR
09-13-2020, 05:58 PM
Race today was in freakin sane.

xeninworx
09-13-2020, 06:12 PM
Well they have to sweep the track though. Didn’t see the need for the 2nd red flag. A safety car could have been used. It was just one car that hit the barrier.

Ger
09-14-2020, 11:53 AM
Well they have to sweep the track though. Didn’t see the need for the 2nd red flag. A safety car could have been used. It was just one car that hit the barrier.

I believe they have to repair the tire barrier before restarting the race hence the long delay.

bluetoy
09-14-2020, 05:56 PM
Unlike Nascar the safety crews are local to the track. They are not part of the traveling F1 teams and support.

xeninworx
09-14-2020, 06:08 PM
I believe they have to repair the tire barrier before restarting the race hence the long delay.

I guess since Bianchi’s accident they decided to red flag than do the safety car.

ZR
09-18-2020, 08:36 AM
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/racefansdotnet-f1-2021-7.jpg


The 2021 regulations promised to be the biggest technical overhaul in the sport's history. The rules were set to completely change the look of the cars and in doing so rethink the way downforce is created to make wheel-to-wheel racing easier. Tied into the new rules were cost-saving measures and standardised parts that aimed to create a level playing field and a new era of F1.
But given the extensive disruption the coronavirus pandemic has caused to F1's 2020 season (not to mention the wider world), it's easy to understand why such a major project has been delayed 12 months. The cost, man-hours and production capability required to make sure an all-new car designed to all-new regulations was delivered on time was already looking like a stretch for some of F1's smaller teams, but following the coronavirus disruption it was verging on the impossible.

ZR
09-26-2020, 07:53 AM
Qualifying today..........bring it!!!

ZR
09-26-2020, 07:53 AM
Some exciting events in practice.

xeninworx
09-26-2020, 08:35 AM
Might rain

xeninworx
09-26-2020, 08:39 AM
Poor Vettel. Just crashed in Q2.

ZR
09-26-2020, 09:09 AM
^ YIKES!!

Hutch
09-26-2020, 10:34 AM
I’ve been watching F1 more regularly again for a few years. It does get boring watching Mercedes dominate most of the time but the rest of the field is fun to watch. Hamilton is an amazing driver but I was disappointed to see him bring his political view into the sport the way he did. I personally think anyone who kneels for an anthem is extremely disrespectful. Plus he thought everyone should do it. There are much better ways to get your point across.
I really root for Alex Albon. He is the underdog but is also such a nice kid with tons of talent. He also got knocked out twice by Hamilton which also made me ticked off at Hamilton.
As for teams I root red bull And McLaren. Both teams have great talented drivers and the teams themselves are really strong. Next year should get really interesting.

Zippy
09-26-2020, 12:16 PM
Qualifying was fun to watch this morning! Looking forward to tomorrow's race. Predicting drama on the opening lap.

xeninworx
09-27-2020, 07:26 AM
Qualifying was fun to watch this morning! Looking forward to tomorrow's race. Predicting drama on the opening lap.

Yep. Stroll and Sainz already out on lap 1.

xeninworx
09-27-2020, 09:08 AM
Congrats to Bottas.

Zippy
09-27-2020, 01:38 PM
Some pretty interesting strat calls today during the race. Anyone understand Hamilton's team strat? Seemed pretty silly to pit him so early. It obviously didn't work. Think he finished 20+ seconds back from Bottas.
Oh well.

xeninworx
09-27-2020, 02:05 PM
Some pretty interesting strat calls today during the race. Anyone understand Hamilton's team strat? Seemed pretty silly to pit him so early. It obviously didn't work. Think he finished 20+ seconds back from Bottas.
Oh well.

They didn’t want him to be undercut. Had he pitted later he would’ve ended up behind people whom would have already pitted plus the 10 second penalty. He got 3rd which is better than 4th or after.

Zippy
09-27-2020, 02:24 PM
They didn’t want him to be undercut. Had he pitted later he would’ve ended up behind people whom would have already pitted plus the 10 second penalty. He got 3rd which is better than 4th or after.
I just dont understand why you pit running the fastest times on the track. He was 2seconds infront of bottas before pits and when it cycled around, bottas had a 14-15second lead on hamilton.
You'd think with Hamilton on those new tires he would have been able to close the gap up before Bottas pitted. Clean air is just that good I suppose.

xeninworx
09-27-2020, 02:50 PM
I believe when you get a stop and go penalty you have to do it within 2-3 laps of when you’re told of it. That’s why Hamilton was complaining why he couldn’t just get 10 seconds added on to his race because then he could stay and in the lead and create a huge gap from whoever is in 2nd place and then get 10 seconds added on and still win.

Zippy
09-27-2020, 10:43 PM
I believe the rule is, if you get a time penalty, you have to serve that time penalty the next time you pit. I don't think there is a rule on when you have to serve it. If you don't end up pitting, it is added onto your race time.
F1 has so many rules though its hard to keep them straight.

ZR
09-27-2020, 10:51 PM
How about Nascar tonight, out of control tires left n right but no penalties.

Zippy
09-28-2020, 06:15 PM
This is a good watch. Pretty entertaining.
Bottas almost has a personality!

Zippy
09-28-2020, 06:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTalgzryWFs&list=PLfRthQ1yDrFsy79szp34yjc_-ZpOXYQ2W&index=1

Zippy
09-28-2020, 06:54 PM
I wish I had 1/10th of the talent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj1i29-kFls

Zippy
09-28-2020, 06:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM0l8XcaiGA

ZR
09-28-2020, 07:25 PM
OMG, three of em out on the track looks like epic fun.

Old Fart
09-28-2020, 08:11 PM
Great videos!!

1BAD92LX
09-28-2020, 09:10 PM
I’d kill to drive one of those V8 supercars.

92redragtop
09-29-2020, 01:21 AM
Hadn't seen this older one before - funny segment.


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Zippy
09-30-2020, 07:10 PM
Legendary


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSoQtwbpcGU

Zippy
10-02-2020, 09:09 AM
Big big big news this morning

Honda pulls out of F1 leaving both redbull teams looking for a new power plant.

https://www.racetechmag.com/2020/10/honda-pulls-out-of-formula-one/

Zippy
10-02-2020, 06:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk5Nw0OpT9A

Zippy
10-09-2020, 06:45 PM
F1 HYPE THIS WEEKEND


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnASRVxdRNU

Hutch
10-11-2020, 07:50 PM
Crazy race today. I was very happy to see Max set the fastest lap but disappointed to see Albon retired. He shouldn’t have got that penalty.

Zippy
10-11-2020, 08:09 PM
Lewis/mercedes just has another gear in terms of pace. Redbull inching closer though.

Hutch
10-11-2020, 09:38 PM
Lewis/mercedes just has another gear in terms of pace. Redbull inching closer though. Lewis is a fantastic driver for sure and super talented. The team/car also plays a part in his constant podiums.

I would love to see Max in the same car.

Zippy
10-11-2020, 09:44 PM
For peeps that missed the race today. It was a decent one but not really all that exciting. Honestly, the commentators do such a great job hyping up battles & restarts.

Congrats to Danny Ric, first podium for Renault since 2011.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2femix89pTE

xeninworx
10-11-2020, 10:40 PM
Lewis is a fantastic driver for sure and super talented. The team/car also plays a part in his constant podiums.

I would love to see Max in the same car.

Max in a Merc would be a little more exciting as he takes more risks however he’d probably get pole every time so he’d only be passing the back markers.

Zippy
10-13-2020, 09:28 PM
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-hulkenberg-2021-seat/4891277/

Hulkenburg to Redbull??????

Zutz2v
10-14-2020, 01:44 PM
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-hulkenberg-2021-seat/4891277/

Hulkenburg to Redbull??????

Imo, that would be stupid, man had never landed podium in his professional F1 career


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Zippy
10-14-2020, 06:38 PM
Redbull made a bad decision letting Gasly go imo.
He's been doing great things in the sister car.

xeninworx
10-14-2020, 06:41 PM
Redbull made a bad decision letting Gasly go imo.
He's been doing great things in the sister car.

I think it had to do with the car. He seems more comfortable and competitive in the Alpha than the Red Bull. Both cars are different even though they’re sister teams.

ZR
10-14-2020, 06:42 PM
He's doing extremely well.

Zippy
10-14-2020, 06:44 PM
I think it had to do with the car. He seems more comfortable and competitive in the Alpha than the Red Bull. Both cars are different even though they’re sister teams.

He had a few bad races, and got canned half way through the season. Redbull impatient. :shrug:

xeninworx
10-14-2020, 06:48 PM
He had a few bad races, and got canned half way through the season. Redbull impatient. :shrug:

Yep, they are. They seem more results driven. They want to be like Mercedes with Hamilton/Rosberg and Hamilton/Bottas and Button/Barrichello and the likes. They want to be 1-2 and not 2 and wherever else Albon finishes.

Zippy
10-14-2020, 07:01 PM
It's kinda crazy that Max, Ham, Bot are all within 2-3 tenths at the ring last week, then Danny Ric/Perez were like 1-1.5seconds a lap slower.
Talent or equipment?

xeninworx
10-14-2020, 08:33 PM
It's kinda crazy that Max, Ham, Bot are all within 2-3 tenths at the ring last week, then Danny Ric/Perez were like 1-1.5seconds a lap slower.
Talent or equipment?

Hard to say. For those the top 3 it’s both. They know how to drive and get the most of their cars and dialed in just right for each track.

The veterans that are in the back don’t have the cars to compete. Not sure what’s going on with Vettel. I think he just wants out of Ferrari. Hard to tell about the Williams boys as clearly the car isn’t doing it for them but do they have the talent that if they drove the Mercedes or Red Bull to win races?

I remember when Piquet Jr was Alonso’s teammate and Flavio complained they had the same car but Piquet was always at the back. Clearly someone had talent and the other didn’t.

I setup my Civic Si to my comfort level. Front wheels had just enough camber to grip around corners but not so much as to destroy the front the tires when driving straight. Rear camber setup for good rotation around corners and some slight oversteer. Had Koni Oranges as for a street car I didn’t care for adjustable dampening. Tein springs. Factory sway bars were fine. Aftermarket CMC and SMC so you could slam every gear and shift as fast you want. Had a 3” extension on the gear leaver and a 3” cylindrical shift knob so that’s 6” higher than what it should be. It was a great setup.

So maybe some of the drivers don’t know how to setup their car for each track.

Zippy
10-15-2020, 09:23 AM
22040

:spitcoffee:

xeninworx
10-15-2020, 09:34 AM
I was just watching an interview with Michael Shcumacher back in 2008. He mentions records are meant to be broken and the first name that comes up is Lewis.

Zippy
10-17-2020, 09:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlD9lbWF5WQ

Old Fart
10-17-2020, 10:14 AM
^^^"video unavailable"

Zippy
10-17-2020, 11:26 AM
^^^"video unavailable"
Click watch on Youtube and it should work

Zippy
10-22-2020, 01:04 PM
Haas flushes both drivers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2uXBGcO_5Q

Stephen06GT
10-22-2020, 03:09 PM
Haas flushes both drivers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2uXBGcO_5Q

A spot for Clint Boyer. ;)

xeninworx
10-22-2020, 06:13 PM
22109

Zippy
10-22-2020, 06:45 PM
A spot for Clint Boyer. ;)

LOL!

Zippy
10-23-2020, 10:13 PM
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.must-see-stroll-and-verstappen-crash-at-turn-1-in-portuguese-gp-practice.3Wi0iqOXf41LFS4THylWsO.html

Zippy
10-23-2020, 10:14 PM
Big yikes. I guess Lance needs glasses.

ZR
10-24-2020, 07:19 AM
Well that looked all too much like driving in Scarborough.

Zippy
10-24-2020, 04:13 PM
Hamilton playing with Bottas emotions.
Hamilton quals P1 after Bottas being #1 in every single practice, Q1 & Q2 lmao

xeninworx
10-24-2020, 04:16 PM
I wonder if Bottas will stay at Mercedes for 2022. I think he renewed for 1 year.

ZR
10-24-2020, 04:28 PM
Hamilton crushed him like a grape.

Zippy
10-25-2020, 01:25 PM
One word. Domination.
They need to add weight or something to Hamilton's car. It's just not fair at this point! LOL!

bluetoy
10-25-2020, 03:24 PM
Hamilton is dominating like Schumacher was. The big difference for me is that Hamilton seems like a guy you could be friends with while Schumacher seemed like an arrogant prick. I don't know where Lewis finds the extra speed he always seems to pull out of thin air but he is a master. Well deserved record that will likely stand for a very long time. It must suck to be his team mate.

xeninworx
10-25-2020, 05:16 PM
Hamilton is dominating like Schumacher was. The big difference for me is that Hamilton seems like a guy you could be friends with while Schumacher seemed like an arrogant prick. I don't know where Lewis finds the extra speed he always seems to pull out of thin air but he is a master. Well deserved record that will likely stand for a very long time. It must suck to be his team mate.

Yeah I remember a race when Hamilton was 4th and Bottas was 3rd and they were trailing two Ferraris. Hamilton thought he could catch up to them so the team told Bottas to let Lewis through and he did. Lewis couldn’t catch up to the Ferraris so he gave Bottas back the place. He didn’t need to give Bottas back the place but he did. He didn’t earn 3rd place so why keep it.

Now how many times was Barrichello leading a race and the team told him to let Schumacher through to get the race win?

92redragtop
10-25-2020, 08:11 PM
Hamilton is dominating like Schumacher was. The big difference for me is that Hamilton seems like a guy you could be friends with while Schumacher seemed like an arrogant prick. I don't know where Lewis finds the extra speed he always seems to pull out of thin air but he is a master. Well deserved record that will likely stand for a very long time. It must suck to be his team mate.

It is notable that his post-race comments really talk up his team and sponsors and their contributions versus his efforts which is unusual for F1 - it's more of a North American Nascar/Indy style than F1.

Hutch
10-25-2020, 09:37 PM
Another fairly boring race. That DRS zone was way too long. Hamilton, Bottas and Verstappen. Big surprise. I think the Mercedes where just playing with everyone for first few laps. Put a little excitement in the crowd.

Zutz2v
11-01-2020, 10:00 AM
Bad luck for Redbull today.


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xeninworx
11-01-2020, 10:08 AM
7 consecutive constructor wins for Merc. 2020 may be a shitty year but Merc and Hamilton are breaking records.

Zippy
11-01-2020, 01:47 PM
Albon choked. :spitcoffee:

Hutch
11-01-2020, 04:42 PM
Albon choked. :spitcoffee:

Poor guy. I really rooted for him but it’s all over. His career is in the toilet. Also Russel pulled a Grosjean today! Lol!!

Zippy
11-01-2020, 09:13 PM
Poor guy. I really rooted for him but it’s all over. His career is in the toilet. Also Russel pulled a Grosjean today! Lol!!

OMG! I laughed so hard.

ZR
11-01-2020, 11:20 PM
It has a hard to imagine moment.

G-ForceJunkie
11-02-2020, 05:55 AM
Poor guy. I really rooted for him but it’s all over. His career is in the toilet. Also Russel pulled a Grosjean today! Lol!!
I'd like to see the data from an F1 team on how much benefit they get from weaving to warm/clean the tires. I've long been under the impression it's more of a psychological benefit than an actual benefit.

Pretty sad mistake to see at that level of racing.

xeninworx
11-02-2020, 07:50 AM
Well no traction control and cold tires will do that. Those tires need to be hot for them to hook up. When they use infrared cameras the tires are red.

Zutz2v
11-06-2020, 05:41 PM
Poor guy. I really rooted for him but it’s all over. His career is in the toilet. Also Russel pulled a Grosjean today! Lol!!

I felt like shit for him. I instantly like that guy cause he came from a humble beginning, but I’ll have to agree he shit the opportunity away.


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xeninworx
11-14-2020, 10:07 AM
The rain really messed things up today but not for Racing Point. Stroll has pole.

ZR
11-14-2020, 10:59 AM
Nice job.

Zippy
11-14-2020, 04:23 PM
LOL! They've got rental cars lapping on the track this weekend to try and break in the surface!

https://wtf1.com/post/road-cars-are-lapping-istanbul-park-to-try-and-increase-the-grip/

xeninworx
11-15-2020, 10:20 AM
Congrats to Hamilton on Title 7 and winning the race. Truly an amazing driver to win from where he was on the grid and winning in the rain.

Zippy
11-15-2020, 12:51 PM
Great race today. Was very interesting to watch. Hamilton truly is the best.

ZR
11-15-2020, 12:53 PM
It was amazing watching him turn a so so day into a win on top of being crowned champion.

Zippy
11-15-2020, 02:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg3v8VKEtBc

Stephen06GT
11-23-2020, 09:04 AM
Old school FI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3_WOtyg9Dw

mavrrrick
11-23-2020, 12:11 PM
^^^thats crazy!!!^^^

Zippy
11-28-2020, 07:39 PM
another merc front row sweep
Hope Max can run with the merc boys this week!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1kSL8JN3_k

ZR
11-29-2020, 06:16 AM
Race is on this am.

N89
11-29-2020, 08:40 AM
Hoping it’s a good race.
Hamilton on pole again, with another track record.

ZR
11-29-2020, 10:00 AM
Broke the record he set earlier yesterday.

Stephen06GT
11-29-2020, 10:27 AM
Well that was quite the start. Holy cow was he lucky to walk away from that.

xeninworx
11-29-2020, 10:45 AM
Glad Grosjean is safe. Gonna be a long race.

N89
11-29-2020, 10:47 AM
OMG. Thank god for all the safety built into this cars.

xeninworx
11-29-2020, 01:24 PM
That halo saved his life.

I feel bad for Perez. Just had a few laps to go.

Zippy
11-29-2020, 01:59 PM
I honestly thought the worst when I saw the wreck live. That's insane.

xeninworx
11-29-2020, 02:15 PM
I honestly thought the worst when I saw the wreck live. That's insane.

Yeah that was bad. I thought the worst too. Watching the replay with the wife. She said OMG.

N89
11-29-2020, 02:34 PM
Yeah I also tough the worst.
Thank God he is ok.
The race was a snooze , hopefully 2022 brings better racing with the new changes.

ZR
11-29-2020, 03:14 PM
Looked like an accident no one could survive. Incredible watching him come out of the flames and up n over the guardrail.
Action of both parties from the medical car were heroic. Instead of standing well back and blasting extinguisher into mid air, charged forward with the ext and drove the flames back, amazing.

Zippy
11-29-2020, 06:19 PM
22428

Zippy
11-29-2020, 06:19 PM
Apparently they just released he only has burns on his wrists and ankles. No broken bones. incredible

Zippy
11-29-2020, 06:20 PM
I hope he has a speedy recovery and gets back on the horse as soon as possible.

ZR
11-29-2020, 08:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAxgcycpGIM

Gabe
11-29-2020, 08:58 PM
My brain can’t figure out how this ended like it did

92redragtop
12-01-2020, 12:52 PM
Good thing he locked up the title already.


Seven-times Formula One world champion Lewis Hamilton said he was devastated after testing positive for COVID-19 and being ruled out of Sunday’s penultimate race of the season in Bahrain.

It will be the first time the 35-year-old Mercedes driver has missed a race in an F1 career that started with McLaren in 2007.

Zippy
12-01-2020, 02:01 PM
That's huge news. Wow

Hutch
12-02-2020, 10:54 AM
Big new also is that Williams has allowed George R to drive for Mercedes this weekend! Should be good! I’m looking forward to seeing a different outcome this weekend.

xeninworx
12-02-2020, 11:37 AM
Would have loved to seen Button in the seat instead. Interested to see how Russell does though.

Zippy
12-02-2020, 06:25 PM
This will be game changer for Russell if he can perform.

xeninworx
12-02-2020, 07:19 PM
I’m sure he can perform however it’s a different car entirely so he’ll have to adjust to it. How long it takes him is the question.

92redragtop
12-03-2020, 12:12 AM
Hopefully this week they don't have any dogs or marshals running across the track!

Zippy
12-03-2020, 08:27 PM
pretty nuts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW6f7CkQ90U

ZR
12-04-2020, 09:06 AM
Had no idea.

xeninworx
12-06-2020, 02:46 PM
GOOD JOB PINK MERCEDES!

bad job black Mercedes!

Zippy
12-06-2020, 03:07 PM
race of the season

xeninworx
12-06-2020, 03:38 PM
I feel so bad for Russell.

Hutch
12-06-2020, 04:08 PM
What an absolute shit show today. Merc threw the race away with an absolute rookie horror show in the pit. I felt so bad for Russel. He killed it but it just shows how good that car is. I know Hamilton is a great driver but if Merc hadn’t screwed up the pit stop, Russel would have won the race by a long shot!!! So he goes from never being in the points even to being #1. Also really happy for Perez. Very emotional day for him. He had a hell of a race

ZR
12-06-2020, 04:34 PM
Also shows that perhaps Russel would be a better choice for the second car. That young man drove like a well seasoned pro. While yet again, Bottas came off as a rookie making mistake after mistake.

Zippy
12-06-2020, 04:46 PM
LOL!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEke3X1z0sM

bluetoy
12-06-2020, 04:55 PM
I think the pit screw up was well explained. With the position of the cars on that lap when the SC came out they had only few seconds to pull that off. So it was bad but George was still going to win that race. It was the puncture he got just before he caught Perez that finished him off. Awesome drive. Probably cemented his future in a works Mercedes. I can see him in Bottas' car.

Stephen06GT
12-07-2020, 08:56 AM
Looks like Russell might get disqualified from the race. F1 is a joke when it comes to all their rules.

https://f1i.com/news/392692-gutted-russell-faces-sakhir-gp-disqualification.html

ZR
12-07-2020, 09:01 AM
Read another story, says Merc to be fined but his finishing position and points stand. Hope it's true.

ZR
12-07-2020, 09:02 AM
Mercedes has offered to give Romain Grosjean a private F1 test early next year if the Frenchman is unable to conclude his career in the sport next week in Abu Dhabi.Grosjean, who miraculously survived a terrifying crash last weekend in Bahrain, is uncertain to race in F1's season finale at Yas Marina, with swelling and minor burns on his left hand possibly leaving him unable to manhandle an F1 car.But Grosjean has stated that he doesn't want his final lap in an F1 car to have been the dramatic one he endured at the start of the Bahrain GP and which ended in agony."The story would be beautiful to go to Abu Dhabi," he said. "If I don't, I'll call every single F1 team and see if anyone would offer me a private test in January or so, to jump back in the car, and have 10-15 laps to myself."

Read also: Grosjean describes harrowing 28 seconds in purgatory (https://f1i.com/news/392213-grosjean-describes-harrowing-28-seconds-in-purgatory.html)

Informed of the Frenchman's plan, Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff said that if no other team can make it happen than he would be willing to try and arrange a proper send off for Grosjean."If we are allowed to do this, and nobody else within his universe of teams that he raced with would provide him with such an opportunity, we would do this," said Wolff.Haas is unlikely to cater to its driver's wish given its tight budget, but Renault, with whom Grosjean started his career in F1 in 2009, could possibly roll out a two-year-old car for its former driver to enjoy.


https://cdn.the-race.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/05202836/XPB_1072419_HiRes.jpg

bluetoy
12-07-2020, 11:58 AM
Yes a fine for Mercedes and Russell keeps his first ever points in F1 and his well deserved place. He would have won if it wasn't for the puncture. I kinda hope he gets another shot in the last race of the year. I do like Hamilton but this is such a great chance for George to showcase his talent. Best car or not Bottas is well seasoned in the same car and Russell pretty much made him look like the newbie.

Hutch
12-07-2020, 02:38 PM
Mercedes has offered to give Romain Grosjean a private F1 test early next year if the Frenchman is unable to conclude his career in the sport next week in Abu Dhabi.Grosjean, who miraculously survived a terrifying crash last weekend in Bahrain, is uncertain to race in F1's season finale at Yas Marina, with swelling and minor burns on his left hand possibly leaving him unable to manhandle an F1 car.But Grosjean has stated that he doesn't want his final lap in an F1 car to have been the dramatic one he endured at the start of the Bahrain GP and which ended in agony."The story would be beautiful to go to Abu Dhabi," he said. "If I don't, I'll call every single F1 team and see if anyone would offer me a private test in January or so, to jump back in the car, and have 10-15 laps to myself."

Read also: Grosjean describes harrowing 28 seconds in purgatory (https://f1i.com/news/392213-grosjean-describes-harrowing-28-seconds-in-purgatory.html)

Informed of the Frenchman's plan, Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff said that if no other team can make it happen than he would be willing to try and arrange a proper send off for Grosjean."If we are allowed to do this, and nobody else within his universe of teams that he raced with would provide him with such an opportunity, we would do this," said Wolff.Haas is unlikely to cater to its driver's wish given its tight budget, but Renault, with whom Grosjean started his career in F1 in 2009, could possibly roll out a two-year-old car for its former driver to enjoy.


https://cdn.the-race.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/05202836/XPB_1072419_HiRes.jpg
This is awesome and good on Mercedes. That is horrible way to finish in F1 and never drive a car like that again. It’s like not being able to say goodbye to an old friend. It’s been Grosjeans life

Zippy
12-07-2020, 05:48 PM
22477

Rino
12-08-2020, 10:51 AM
22477

Thats a good one.lol

Zippy
12-11-2020, 06:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L96tYRRF1qI

Zippy
12-11-2020, 06:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpgv1iN9HR8

ZR
12-13-2020, 08:48 AM
Hamilton seems a notch or two off from the norm.

xeninworx
12-13-2020, 09:38 AM
They’ve got MGUK problems so they turned down the power on the cars.

ZR
12-13-2020, 03:07 PM
From drop of the flap (ok lights out), pair of Mercs looked nothing like the cars driven during quali.
Congrats to Max on the win but race seemed off and yes was as boring as a 500 mile Nascar event.

xeninworx
12-18-2020, 01:12 PM
Albon out and Perez in at Red Bull.

Zippy
01-09-2021, 11:35 AM
Missing F1
22680

Zutz2v
01-09-2021, 09:47 PM
Missing F1
22680

That’s a sick burn lmao


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fast Ed
01-10-2021, 09:45 AM
That's so it's easier for them to stay out of the way when they are being lapped.

xeninworx
01-10-2021, 10:44 AM
But they all have mirrors due to FIA rules.

Stephen06GT
01-10-2021, 11:26 AM
Missing F1
22680

I can remember when Williams was winning championships. Man I’m old.

fast Ed
01-10-2021, 12:41 PM
I was thinking that too ...sad to see the team in such a state these days.

fast Ed
01-10-2021, 04:39 PM
Canada's 1st and only F1 champ, in a Williams:

https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/97LUX10-e1506577312163.jpg

Zippy
01-17-2021, 05:25 PM
This superstars need to start driving with some class, even online.
Not a good look for one of the greats.
Fernando Alonso straight up wrecking someone in a iracing race over the weekend

https://www.twitch.tv/tygrysmati/clip/BraveEasyMelonPeoplesChamp

Zippy
01-19-2021, 09:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNzkl8-cFJA

Stephen06GT
01-19-2021, 09:32 PM
^^My first reaction to that still shot, “Wow is that car UGLY.”

Zippy
02-07-2021, 02:44 AM
Amazing news this week.

https://racer.com/2021/02/03/grosjean-confirms-road-street-indycar-move-with-coyne/

ZR
02-07-2021, 03:15 AM
Terrific news, be great to see him back.

https://racer.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/85/2021/02/1018068725-LAT-20200312-_ONY1466.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

Zippy
02-28-2021, 11:31 PM
March 19th....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIFhAtbV0D0

Zippy
02-28-2021, 11:34 PM
Mental toughness at it's finest. Escaped death, and has the courage to get behind the wheel again. Good for him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJQzoSoZbtI

Zippy
03-04-2021, 11:46 PM
Hope Vettel has better luck at his new team. New car/paint scheme looks pretty cool.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwCQle2ZJWM

xeninworx
03-05-2021, 07:41 AM
I’m excited to see how he does in a green Mercedes.

Zippy
03-14-2021, 12:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-O6tUkabk8

ZR
03-14-2021, 08:56 AM
Season is getting closer.

xeninworx
03-26-2021, 05:45 PM
It’s race weekend! Woo!

ZR
03-26-2021, 05:46 PM
Bring it!!!

Zutz2v
03-27-2021, 10:52 AM
My driver picks to watch out for this weekend

1. Yuko Tsunoda
2. Sergio Perez
3. Sabastian Vettel

I’m expecting something good from these guys.

Anyone else ?


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ZR
03-27-2021, 11:07 AM
I'm just excited it's up n running for the season.

xeninworx
03-27-2021, 12:20 PM
The rake on the Red Bulls are crazy high.

ZR
03-27-2021, 10:35 PM
Hell of a quali season.

xeninworx
03-28-2021, 06:54 AM
It’s race day. Woo!

Zippy
03-28-2021, 07:45 AM
I hope the racing is good today... Qual was certainly interesting.

xeninworx
03-28-2021, 12:41 PM
Well that was a good race.

Zippy
03-28-2021, 01:07 PM
Great race. Can they race again tomorrow? :D

1BAD92LX
03-28-2021, 01:18 PM
Max got ripped off.

ZR
03-28-2021, 01:24 PM
Mercedes screwed Bottas over yet again.

xeninworx
03-28-2021, 01:24 PM
Max got ripped off.

Yeah but he did that to Raikkonen and that didn’t go well. Plenty more races for him to try again.

Zippy
03-28-2021, 06:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuBlV0dixMo

Zippy
03-28-2021, 06:55 PM
29/54 laps Lewis Hamilton went wide in Turn 4 today during the race.
Don't really understand how there isn't some sort of penalty or how he wasn't black flagged after the first 2 or 3 times he did it.
There's only 20cars on track... it can't be that hard to monitor that.
They do it no problem in practice and in Qual?

ZR
03-28-2021, 06:58 PM
Ya not sure why they gave him a skate for so many laps before saying next time would be an issue. Bit a baby the way he barked back over the radio about it.

Zippy
03-28-2021, 07:00 PM
Video of him doing it. Clearly outside the track "limits"


https://streamable.com/tl50nv

Zutz2v
03-28-2021, 09:04 PM
29/54 laps Lewis Hamilton went wide in Turn 4 today during the race.
Don't really understand how there isn't some sort of penalty or how he wasn't black flagged after the first 2 or 3 times he did it.
There's only 20cars on track... it can't be that hard to monitor that.
They do it no problem in practice and in Qual?

They stroke Hamilton off, I was rooting for max but what’s right is right.


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Stephen06GT
03-29-2021, 12:13 PM
Mercedes screwed Bottas over yet again.

https://f1i.com/news/400962-bottas-unhappy-not-normal-mercedes-strategy.html

92redragtop
04-17-2021, 11:44 PM
Nice angle (if the link works)


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xeninworx
04-18-2021, 06:30 AM
So they added the Miami GP for 2022. That should be interesting to watch.

Stephen06GT
04-18-2021, 09:07 AM
These F1 announcers are terrible.

xeninworx
04-18-2021, 09:59 AM
And now it’s red flagged to clear debris.

Stephen06GT
04-18-2021, 10:01 AM
These F1 announcers are terrible.

And so are the safety crews. In NASCAR, Indy car and NHRA the safety crews a running before the cars involved in a crash have even stopped rolling. In F1, the the supposedly premier auto racing series, the drivers get out of their cars and wonder around the track for a few minutes before anyone shows up. We do a better job at our track days.

xeninworx
04-18-2021, 12:09 PM
Max did a great job at the start. That got him the race. Wasn’t Mercedes’ day but Lewis got back his 2nd place.

Zippy
04-18-2021, 06:54 PM
Decently entertaining race today.
As for the George Russell V Bottas incident... I think Russell is in the wrong.
He is blaming bottas moving a fraction back to the right for him going wide into the grass.

Agreed with above, crazy how long it takes for safety crews to arrive on scene at these wrecks. Imagine if the crash Romain had happened today... he would have died.
However, at what point do you send safety guys out there, seconds after the crash, i believe it was alonso, self spun right by the accident.
I think they just need to slow wayyyy down and make getting to the accident scene a priority.

I do enjoy listening to the announcers. They often have intelligent things to say and rarely repeat the same information over and over again like the NASCAR boys do.

Jack Raccoon!
04-19-2021, 05:37 PM
And so are the safety crews. In NASCAR, Indy car and NHRA the safety crews a running before the cars involved in a crash have even stopped rolling. In F1, the the supposedly premier auto racing series, the drivers get out of their cars and wonder around the track for a few minutes before anyone shows up. We do a better job at our track days.

Remember the track day at TMP when the car rolled and the chick jumped out of the following car wearing flip flops. That was what the ricer kids call "epic"...

Zippy
04-23-2021, 09:49 PM
2394023941

New wheels and tire combo for 2022. That is pretty sexy looking.

fast Ed
04-23-2021, 10:23 PM
No more 13" finally??

xeninworx
04-24-2021, 06:05 AM
I wonder if they’ll increase the brake size since they’ll have larger wheels.

xeninworx
05-09-2021, 07:53 PM
98 wins for Hamilton. Go on boy! Break those records! For a guy with no racing heritage, he’s impressive. Can’t knock that.

Zippy
05-09-2021, 10:00 PM
It's almost like he was just playing with Max today.
Hamilton is just on another level.

Zexhuffer
05-10-2021, 10:30 PM
What's a good site to watch the races on?

How is everyone else watching?

Zippy
05-10-2021, 10:41 PM
What's a good site to watch the races on?

How is everyone else watching?

Watch it on TSN.
1400 on Bell

Zexhuffer
05-10-2021, 11:32 PM
What's a good site to watch the races on?

How is everyone else watching?

Zippy
05-11-2021, 05:46 PM
Anyone need a car in Findland?

https://twitter.com/ValtteriBottas/status/1392176262332956676?s=09

Zutz2v
05-11-2021, 06:19 PM
What's a good site to watch the races on?

How is everyone else watching?

Download the F1 app. Pay the 60$ it’s good for the season and it gives you so much options. It’s worth every penny and you can login from any device.


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xeninworx
05-11-2021, 06:28 PM
Download the F1 app. Pay the 60$ it’s good for the season and it gives you so much options. It’s worth every penny and you can login from any device.


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How is it when watching on tv?

Zexhuffer
05-14-2021, 08:58 PM
Download the F1 app. Pay the 60$ it’s good for the season and it gives you so much options. It’s worth every penny and you can login from any device.


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Went on the f1 site and says it's 80 us for the year but how good is it streaming wise? Is it worth it?

Zutz2v
05-14-2021, 10:25 PM
How is it when watching on tv?

I haven’t done it on the tv yet. I have to figure it out on my laptop. But if you stream it off your phone and stuff the stream is good and it’s clear


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Zutz2v
05-14-2021, 10:25 PM
Went on the f1 site and says it's 80 us for the year but how good is it streaming wise? Is it worth it?

It was 60$ when I purchased it


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Zexhuffer
05-19-2021, 12:20 AM
I just got a new android box and iptv. More channels than I can look at so far and best part is the 10 f1 channels and all ppv stuff for mma.

Well see how it is this weekend with Monaco coming up, not to mention ufc, bellator and Invicta fights this weekend.

Zippy
05-20-2021, 05:46 PM
I'm still fairly new to F1... this is pretty interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSePuWSrNd0

xeninworx
05-22-2021, 12:22 PM
Good job Leclerc. I’m being serious and sarcastic at the same time.

Zippy
05-23-2021, 01:37 PM
Pretty insane that these guys ran 78 laps out there today and zero accidents. Some close calls... but wow. Shows you the talent all the drivers in F1 really have.

Zippy
05-23-2021, 06:08 PM
Feel gutted for Bottas again. How does this happen so often to this guy.


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ZR
05-23-2021, 06:10 PM
It would seem Merc doesn't give a damm about him.

xeninworx
05-23-2021, 06:28 PM
Seems to happen often to him when there’s a wheel change. Maybe he’s getting the brakes too hot and the wheel nut gets stuck?

Zippy
06-03-2021, 05:07 PM
God I hope Bottas can get some luck on his side to close out the season.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZDQXOLkKNs

xeninworx
06-05-2021, 08:31 AM
This is bullshit. My Sport Lite package from Rogers doesn’t include TSN2 which is the channel F1 is showing on. There are 5 TSN channels and all they’re showing are hockey and tennis streams. You’d think with 5 channels you’d show 5 different sports.

Zexhuffer
06-06-2021, 12:39 AM
This is bullshit. My Sport Lite package from Rogers doesn’t include TSN2 which is the channel F1 is showing on. There are 5 TSN channels and all they’re showing are hockey and tennis streams. You’d think with 5 channels you’d show 5 different sports.

Got a android box with iptv.... sweet lord haven't had it a month yet but looooove it so much.
Have the race recording tomorrow cause of the 8 am start.

Get a box you'll never look at cable again trust me

Gasly starting in fourth for tomorrow.....loving it

xeninworx
06-06-2021, 06:46 AM
Got a android box with iptv.... sweet lord haven't had it a month yet but looooove it so much.
Have the race recording tomorrow cause of the 8 am start.

Get a box you'll never look at cable again trust me

Gasly starting in fourth for tomorrow.....loving it

We do have one. For my parents and I use it sometimes to watch new movies. I have basic cable and internet because my parents wanted basic cable. If they didn’t need the cable I would have just went with internet.

I got the 1 year subscription to F1 TV. Cheaper than the sport package from Rogers. Only downside is can’t watch it on my actual tv because Google doesn’t have a F1 app on their android tv. And casting from my phone is horrible. I’ll just watch it on my 12.9” iPad Pro. Good enough for me.

Zexhuffer
06-06-2021, 01:56 PM
We do have one. For my parents and I use it sometimes to watch new movies. I have basic cable and internet because my parents wanted basic cable. If they didn’t need the cable I would have just went with internet.

I got the 1 year subscription to F1 TV. Cheaper than the sport package from Rogers. Only downside is can’t watch it on my actual tv because Google doesn’t have a F1 app on their android tv. And casting from my phone is horrible. I’ll just watch it on my 12.9” iPad Pro. Good enough for me.

Server I have now has full f1 package and ppvs.

My mom had issues with casting and the shitty connection...get a micro usb/ USB to hdmi cable and watch it on TV.. worth 20 from canada computers and watch in comfort .

Zutz2v
06-06-2021, 02:34 PM
That was definitely an interesting race. I was heart broken for max. But laughed like an evil villain when Hamilton’s breaks locked up. Not a hater I just want to see them both battle it out like champs.


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Zippy
06-06-2021, 02:54 PM
Pretty good race. Glad I recorded it to skip the long red flag.

Zippy
06-10-2021, 06:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RGaoLpBASw

Zexhuffer
06-11-2021, 06:02 PM
I can't wait to see what happens this weekend with these pirellis...cost max a huge win.

ZR
06-11-2021, 10:56 PM
That was about as unfortunate as things could have gone for him. Only upside, Hamilton fawked up huge running off the track n threw away the poijnts lead.

Zexhuffer
06-11-2021, 11:37 PM
That was about as unfortunate as things could have gone for him. Only upside, Hamilton fawked up huge running off the track n threw away the poijnts lead.

7 or so laps left and Lisa is all excited cause she likes red bull and max....I tell her that anything could happen and within minutes...bam.

I was just happy gasly got on the podium, I like that kid

ZR
06-12-2021, 07:09 AM
^ We do as well.

Zutz2v
06-12-2021, 12:02 PM
Am I the only one who is annoyed by Lance stroll ?


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Zutz2v
06-20-2021, 10:33 AM
MAX VERSTAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!! Ye baby!


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xeninworx
06-20-2021, 10:54 AM
Well it’s not boring anymore, I can tell you that.

Zippy
06-20-2021, 11:47 AM
best race of the year

Zippy
06-25-2021, 05:49 PM
https://streamable.com/yjoq55

xeninworx
06-25-2021, 07:34 PM
https://streamable.com/yjoq55

Ha! It’s a spinoff.

Stephen06GT
07-18-2021, 10:29 AM
The “F1 Circus” moniker is well deserved. The nonsense going on right now after the first lap crash between Red Bull and Mercedes is nothing short of a joke.

xeninworx
07-18-2021, 01:04 PM
They were both thinking each other was gonna back out. Hamilton was right on him until the incident.

Zutz2v
07-18-2021, 07:53 PM
I’m a redbull fan, that being said to me it looked like a regular accident. They both had room abs both choose not to use it. Oh well next race


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Zippy
07-18-2021, 09:39 PM
I think the penalty was fair, however, i wish they would give out less penalty's and just let them settle it on the track.

xeninworx
07-18-2021, 10:32 PM
That’s why most people were saying it was a racing incident. In the end the penalty served no purpose as Lewis won the race.

Everyone keeps saying Hamilton hit Verstappen. You can clearly see in the replays that Verstappen hits Lewis’s front wheel with his rear wheel and that’s why Verstappen’s wheel broke.

Furthermore Verstappen is complaining that everyone celebrating at the end of the race is disrespectful and unsportsmanlike while he was in the hospital. Hey jackass, you were on the podium last year in Bahrain and celebrating when Grosjean had his big crash and was in the hospital.

ZR
07-18-2021, 10:48 PM
Max's post is ridiculous. Felt bad for how things worked for him watching the race, after his comments, really could care less.



Glad I’m ok. Very disappointed with being taken out like this. The penalty given does not help us and doesn’t do justice to the dangerous move Lewis made on track. Watching the celebrations while still in hospital is disrespectful and unsportsmanlike behavior but we move on



(https://twitter.com/Max33Verstappen/status/1416816722200469508/photo/1)

G-ForceJunkie
07-19-2021, 03:15 PM
Max didn't need to do anything different to go through that corner side by side with Lewis. Lewis is the one that wasn't on the line you'd expect him to take, so IMO, that makes the accident Lewis's fault.

That said, I'd be fine with no penalties IF the race continued and Lewis had to pit for a new front wing. In that scenario there is clear disincentive to be involved in an accident. I think what I learned from all this was, if you're going to cause an accident, make sure it's bad enough to stop the race, because then you get to fix your car with no time lost. The red flag probably saved Lewis about 40 seconds in the pits.

Uncle Buck
07-19-2021, 06:03 PM
Good no one was hurt but....rubbing is racing

Zippy
07-19-2021, 07:55 PM
Pretty disappointed in what Max said on Twitter.

xeninworx
07-19-2021, 10:54 PM
Helmut Marko wants Hamilton banned for the rest of the season lol. Sure you do, because that hands Verstappen the championship. So who’s trying to take out the competition now?

Even if the FIA banned Hamilton, not like that would happen, who do you think would be driving the Mercedes? Russell, that’s who. He proved himself last year. And he keeps proving himself this year by getting that back marker Williams into Q3. Verstappen will have to contend with Russell who is just as fast if not faster than Hamilton.

Zippy
08-01-2021, 11:03 PM
Vettel DQ'd from the race.
What a shame

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vettel-disqualified-from-hungarian-gp-over-fuel-infringement/6640807/

ZR
08-01-2021, 11:23 PM
Ridiculous.

xeninworx
08-02-2021, 01:04 AM
Definitely an interesting race. Great to see Ocon get a win.

xeninworx
08-02-2021, 11:04 AM
Didn’t realize but there are still 12 races to go. A very long season.

xeninworx
08-28-2021, 11:37 AM
Again, George Russell is the man. P2 in a back marker car.

Zippy
08-28-2021, 05:31 PM
I wonder if Noris is okay enough to drive for tomorrow... might see the Hulk?

xeninworx
08-29-2021, 09:02 AM
Delayed start due to rain and Perez crashed during the formation lap. He’s out.

Scrape
08-29-2021, 09:33 AM
Red flag…

xeninworx
08-29-2021, 01:22 PM
Well that was uninteresting.

Zippy
08-29-2021, 03:01 PM
pretty sad decision by the FIA of F1 today.

xeninworx
08-29-2021, 03:55 PM
I bet Red Bull made a deal with the weather gods.